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Wow , looks good , did you do that your self?
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Thanks but no I figured the hood badge needed a different coating instead of paint. A fellow here on the board does different colored crests in a weather proof coating. I'll find the info and post it, the quality looks good.
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Please do, I would like a silver/black hood crest for my all black car. I have never liked the gold...

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The crest is ceramic coated. Fellow's name is Jim, here is his email:
jtyurg at gmail dot com
A search did not turn up his ad in the classifieds, I must not be using the right buzz words. Nothing but good to say about the crest right now, it looks great on the car!
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Alarm update.
I received an email back from Mark with Magnadyne, not only did he identify the alarm but sent me a copy of the manual !! This thing is so frickin elaborate! It taps into every system and has redundancies against defeat. It arms when "zones" are down and has provisions for valet and "soft" arming that will allow only certain systems to function. Now I know what that rocker switch and those toggle switches are for and thank the lord I didn't touch them! They are part of the valet option.

Turns out that what I did on Saturday was accidentally trip the "soft" alarm that kills the ignition only. To defeat that setting you have to hold one of the buttons down for x seconds. When I went to test the battery the voltage meter created a spike that was detected by the alarm switching it to full circus mode.
I'm taking the car to the restoration shop Saturday and the mechanic and I will devise a method of attack. Wish us well.










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Hey Brian,

That old alarm system just sounds scary, way too many ways that sucker could get a glitch and leave you stranded.

This car is never really going to leave your sight anyway........ do you really need that potential headache?

Mark

P.S. You have got some pretty odd colored relays in your fuse panel??? Fuel pump relays should be red, all else black. what are the white ones & the brown one??

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Yes, that's why I'll be meeting with Wayne the mechanic at the restoration shop, this alarm will be surgically removed. We've got to ID these relays and all the extra wiring. With schematic in hand this job is now possible. Every "zone" in the instruction manual has the same horrifying wiring diagram where the power going to a component such as a door lock or ignition switch is cut ( + ------/ X /------- c ) and the alarm system slpiced in between the cut wires.
We are going to be replacing a LOT of cut wires.

You are correct, this car will not be too far out of my site at any time. I do plan to use one really nice feature of this alarm and will leave it intact, and that is the remote door lock/unlock. The "zone" or modular way this system is featured is actually one thing I like about it. You can keep/remove or disable/arm any zone you wish. I may leave the siren and basic alarm but that fuel pump and ignition cutoff has got to go along with the panic lockdown and window roll-up.
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Best of luck with the alarm removal it should be fun. However, its not that difficult to remove as I to have done several as we've uncovered these finds.
The wiring and relays are easily identifiable as non-standard, traced, and removed. Yeah, and like you, I would definetly get rid of that fuel pump and ignition cutoff, along with the panic lockdown and window roll-up!
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dude

another tornado?

tho yer postin here - good sign all's swell witchyous?

hopefully - here's to hopin
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Dodged another bullet. Anderson Hills, a community a few miles up the road, was erased last year and hit again today. Some of the houses were not yet fully rebuilt and now gone again. I feel so bad for those folks. A fellow I know has had severe damage to his house 3 times now in 10 years, I told him to move but not by me!
Thank you to Brad B who called to check on me and the many emails I received today, you guys are the best.
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Busy day today. Had breakfast with the PCA boys early then went to the shop to discuss work on a client's engine. It's coming along.





Then we went over the wiring schematics of my notorious alarm system, crawled all over the car and found the brain box. We now have a solid plan of attack.





Went back to my shop and assembled a set of headers and built heat exchangers. This set came back from a client who could not get them to work with his setup. Unfortunately I believe he inadvertently made a critical error removing the J-pipe, turbo and bracket first then modding the bracket to work with a K27. You cannot do that with my headers as they are designed to adjust to fit the turbo, not the other way around. Nothing fits if the turbo is not in the OEM spot. They popped on the test mule and lined right up. Unfortunate situation.





Next on to the gray ghost who now has a boost issue, as in no boost. The engine runs better every day as I clean up and rebuild components. Recently power began going away on boost and now there is none. The car runs very strong right up to 4200rpm when boost should come, and then nothing, power slowly drops off until I get out of the throttle. I know the BOV gaskets are completely gone so that is where we will start.





Well that's it for today, time to meet the family for dinner.
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Nothing to report on the slant unfortunately as I have been just slammed for weeks now.

The new owner of the Red Rocket dropped me a note with a picture IN COLORADO.
He lives in TX and has a summer home in CO. He bought my car for the turbo power to drive in the mountains. How cool is that! I can't tell you all how great it feels to have sold my beloved car to someone who is enjoying it as much as this guy.


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Brian, your headers look really nice. Not sure what you mean about the k27. How can one mount the k27 in the exact stock location without modifying the bracket?
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You can't, there must be a misunderstanding somewhere. To mount a K27 on a 930 requires a bracket mod or you can machine 10mm off the K27 hot housing.
Are you on the right thread?
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No, right thread. You mentioned in the pic above that to use your headers the turbo had to be in the exact OEM location. Just wondering how this would be accomoplished w a k27 and your headers .
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Wow, it's like a shot of Nessie or the Sasquatch! At least one set of exchangers for your headers does exist! I've waited courteously and patiently- you would agree- for 2-1/2 years for mine. This is my first public airing of it. I'd like to know when and if you are ever going to ship them, or come out and just admit defeat, which would be closure, at least. I can simply buy another set and sell your headers to someone in a warmer climate than the NorthEast, but I've waited b/c it's always "won't be long now".
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Went back to my shop and assembled a set of headers and built heat exchangers. This set came back from a client who could not get them to work with his setup. Unfortunately I believe he inadvertently made a critical error removing the J-pipe, turbo and bracket first then modding the bracket to work with a K27. You cannot do that with my headers as they are designed to adjust to fit the turbo, not the other way around. Nothing fits if the turbo is not in the OEM spot. They popped on the test mule and lined right up. Unfortunate situation
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You can't, there must be a misunderstanding somewhere. To mount a K27 on a 930 requires a bracket mod or you can machine 10mm off the K27 hot housing.
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No, right thread. You mentioned in the pic above that to use your headers the turbo had to be in the exact OEM location. Just wondering how this would be accomoplished w a k27 and your headers .
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Yes, concerning the K27, as I stated previously the turbo must not move or everything is off. Doesn't matter who's headers you're installing. When changing from a 3LDZ to a K27 the 3LDZ must be removed and the K27 installed on the stock J-pipe then the bracket is modified to allow the K27 to sit where the 3LDZ used to sit. THEN you can install the headers.

Yes these are the bigfoot of heat exchangers. What I have found is the batch-to-batch variation of the headers required custom fitment of the exchangers. So for folks such as yourself with older headers I have to pull the records to see what batch they were then modify a set of exchangers using an example set from that batch. You can only imagine how time consuming all of that is. I've learned a valuable lesson and really lost my ass on these but will continue to work through it for folks that need them.
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Yes these are the bigfoot of heat exchangers. What I have found is the batch-to-batch variation of the headers required custom fitment of the exchangers. So for folks such as yourself with older headers I have to pull the records to see what batch they were then modify a set of exchangers using an example set from that batch. You can only imagine how time consuming all of that is. I've learned a valuable lesson and really lost my ass on these but will continue to work through it for folks that need them.
I don't think I noticed a date commitment in there, Brian. If it's time management, can I suggest that the next time you feel like working on the "Gray Ghost", you fight the urge and instead finish off my exchangers? We're both good guys... let's just get this over the goal line now.

On a separate and more on-topic post, I'm surprised to hear that positioning of the turbo is as critical as you suggest. The exchangers seem to mount well rearward and around the exhaust flange primaries, in an area that I would have thought was dictated by the exhaust ports and not the turbo position. I hope I do not have the same issue, as I too worked my way from the heads to the turbo and tweaked the bracket with a little heat and slightly widened the holes. I guess we will see.
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Positioning the turbo is critical if you want the turbo cold side outlet to go through the tin in the right spot, the cold side inlet to mount to the turbo with ease, and the muffler to fit properly.

Ken there are options to get a set out the door more quickly, I'll contact you off line and see what we can do.
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wow looks like this thread went down hill. Anyhow Brian the project looks great Have fun. I sold my turbo what 2 weeks before you did and ended up a with a 964 so I went a different direction but enjoy what you are doing
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