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Turbo Look Prices

Is it just me or are the prices of Factory Turbo look cars totally unrealistic. I see them advertised on the web and they are always over 30k. there is one on ebay with high mileage for almost 40k. I think you can get a very nice 930 for that price. I paid $22,00 for my 930 why would anyone pay over that for a non turbo when you can have the real thing for either the same or less as a "Turbo Look". Why would our cars be worth less than an imitation?

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maybe due to low production numbers???
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I am just as perplexed about this as you! I can't imagine buying a "sheep in wolf's chothing" in the first place and certainly not for the same price as the real thing!

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I'd agree low production numbers plays into it, but I think there is something more.

Everyone (or nearly everyone) loves the look of the turbo, but it seems that many people are turned off by the potentially higher cost of ownership. There have been countless debates on whether a turbo is more expensive to maintain than an NA 911, and I don't wish to start another one here but I tend to agree that turbos will generally be more costly. Certainly if you compare the % of 930 owners in these forums who have needed to rebuild their engines vs. the % of NA 911 guys, one can conclude it is more expensive to own a turbo.

Another way too look at it is the Turbo Look is a way to get the appearance of a 930, but without all that troublesome horsepower
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Look at it this way: 930 owners get the pleasure of owning not only one of the most beautiful 911 variants of all time, but one with the performance to match. It's like getting a Turbo Look, with a free horsepower boost. And that deliciously anti-social turbo burble, too.

For once, I'm glad that the thing I want it own isn't the one with the price premium.
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Buncha a damn wanna-be posers is what the "turbo look" crowd is all about. Looks won't get the performance, charm, or instant karma of the real thing. Dream or do....we have a choice in this world.
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Lag.
Plenty of people would rather NA style power.
Me, I love the lag.
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I need the Go with the Show.

Vas - It looks like our cars are fairly close in mods. How's the K27?
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I could never understand the interest in the "turbo look", kinda like finding out your girls bra is stuffed with tissue.
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The 3.0L RSR body, an N.A. Car, was borrowed for the Turbo.
At the risk of alienating most here on this board, the vast majority or the Porsche community do not like the "character" of the turbocar's driveline.
Most know their car is not the quickest or fastest in a straight line and that is OK.
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Lag.
Plenty of people would rather NA style power.
Me, I love the lag.
I love what happens immediately after the lag
Certain owners get scared off of Turbo ownership. Who can blame them? Spend 15 minutes on this forum and most casual 911 owners run away screaming.
Turbos can be expensive. Only committed, hard core hot rodders like all of us care to own them.
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The turbo look isn't just a look, remember the M491 has the superior turbo brakes and suspension. That alone is worth a little premium (maybe not the $$$ premium when new). Also, remember the Turbo was not reintroduced into the States until 1986, so so the '84 and '85 buyers couldn't get the turbo and settled for the next best thing. Posers? A little harsh, I don't consider myself a poser for owning a M491.
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M491s are nice, when you add a turbo.
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The model name says it all "Turbo Look".

Which implies, NOT the real thing but the "look", for some folks that's enough... I've seen a couple of Turbo Look well sorted out and are impressive machines; however, don't have the charm of a 930.
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The M491 is a 930 chassis with a Carrera engine and 915 or G50 tranny.
Production numbers are low, considered a collectable.
Maintenance is less expensive.
No lag, good gearing, great street driveability.
Poser element as you get the wide body without the turbo driveability issues, poor mileage, and high cost of ownership.
I listed a '89 M491 coupe last year, in the height of the recession, which sold for $45K in a couple weeks.
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I can see the appeal of a M491. As Brian says above, a lot of good things come from that package. Having said that, in the end ..... it is lacking that raw DNA of the Turbo drivetrain that really defines the essence of the 930 experience.

For me, if I had bought a M491 instead of a 930 (and I can see myself having done that), I would have always felt a twinge of emptiness in the experience.
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My mechanic did his best to talk me out of the real thing in favour of the "look" - all the same reasons as listed previously...and I get it....but how can you not get the real thing when there is no difference in the price??? Every 911 I have ever driven; from '69-'97 (yes I am including the 993, no RS or RSR yet sadly) has always left me slightly disappointed from a performance perspective....until I drove a turbo.....
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I need the Go with the Show.

Vas - It looks like our cars are fairly close in mods. How's the K27?
Old and in need of a new one.

How much power are you making?
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As a comparison the 996 c4s is outselling comparable 996 tt cars for the same reason.

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