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Thanks for saying hi, Paulie. I really do want to know how you saw the 365, though. I blew up the size of that pic and still couldn't see the SOB!!

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Telerding, I'm jealous of your paint. Car looks great.

Sugar scoops are groovy, don't change them. If you want more light use the h4 upgrade kit that plugs into the existing housing.

Is this a late 79? What exhaust does it have? (edit: scratch that, I just looked at the interior. What is the deal with sugar scoops on a later turbo?)

Only suggestion I have is to get the suspension sorted and lower it a little.

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Cool! Like the interior too on the 930, too, especially the color matched Recaros. Looks like a pre-1980 car?
Yes, 1979. Seats were oldered with car but installed by the dealer 6 months after it was delivered. I've got the receipt, hard to believe how much they cost.

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BTW, you listen to the radio much in the car while its in the garage?
Shame on me. Honestly that is what I see when I look at that picture. It has been two years since that picture was taken and I still haven't fixed that antenna.

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Thanks for saying hi, Paulie. I really do want to know how you saw the 365, though. I blew up the size of that pic and still couldn't see the SOB!!
Heh, I added a "ps" to my reply right after I posted it...

I've got really good eyes, and have also honed yearseses' worth of internet surfing car schenanigans that I've learned there's always more to be seen in a pic than you first realize...

plus it's like GADAR (which I somehow also have go figure?)... that stuff simply cannot hide from me, it's like a 6th Sense or something (which is nothing like a 3rd Input)

sugar scoops are OEM on '86 USA cars - sorry, I don't find them groovy 8-)...
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Kinda like the internet naked self taken cell phone picture of a woman in her bathroom with a turd floating in her toilet. Well, at least she is eating enough fiber? lol
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What's a sugar scoop?

My car is an 86, stock as a stove, just as ordered from the factory by first owner, who had the car for 23 years. He ordered the car in 85, waited 9 months to get it (June 86).

Has the stock exhaust, complete with the original cat. Which will stay on the car until I get it smogged. Cat is 26 years old, but almost new, as first owner took it off just after he bought the car. I have the bypass tube he had made to replace it.

Iceman: You can just see the tail end of the Ferrari (red, of course) through the bushes on the right side of the last picture, parked in the garage.

"Dead Eye" Paul: 66 mustang, 347 stroker from a 92 302 motor; built C4, GV over/underdrive, 22 gallon tank, red/black interior, 12 Autometer gauges, Edelbrock wheels (rare!!). Fun car!

Had the Daytona about 8 years. Have redone almost everything (including motor) since purchase. Interior very nice, paint is a 5 footer. Platinum winner, Best in Class at LA Concours in 2010. Now retired from being judged.

The other car, 2004 BMW M3 is hands-down the best car I have ever owned. Performance, looks, reliability. Its a keeper, too.
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Yes the 930 was traveling in good company. In addition to the 962 there was an RSR behind it and a 427 Cobra (yes, a real one) that had to be unloaded to get my car out.


Awww, that was my friend Mikes car. He passed away at the end of 09 and his collection began to be auctioned atthe Quail Lodge last year or the year before I believe it was. I think the first car sold was his 917 Spyder, He also had an RSR, fact C4 Cup Car and a number of other niceties. And he was the nicest guy!! RIP.

So, I wonder who got this one and where its going?


Oh, and Telerding, very nice score.. the 930 is gorgeous and so are the stablemates!
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Suger scoops are the headlights which specifically cover the entire lens on 911s. They were on US spec cars between the mid 70's, probably '74 thru '86.. '86 was the last year for suger scoops and the black rear reflector.

Actually I own a '01 M3 and hands down the 930 is more enjoyable, and faster on the top end! But both are great cars which I l love to drive..The M is "easy" to drive fast while the 930 needs to be coaxed and worked at.

Few cars I see that i like as much as mine, your car is beautiful and all original. Maybe I'll get to see it sometime here on the left coast...congrats
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I looked at your garage pics of your 930, Shlobeck. Beautiful car! Where were those pictures taken...In Rancho Fantasy?
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No the photo is from UTC..
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shlobeck:

Thanks for the definition. Because I'm going to show the car in judged events I'm going to keep the sugar scoops. But I am going to put in the halogens as zakthor suggested.

On another subject, the car just passed Calif smog today, right out of the box! No tweaking required. What a great day!
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hope I didn't upset any 'scoop devotees 8-)

Tom your '66 sounds like a real hoot, and dayum... redone 12... good fer you that's real special.

Ahso... retire the GTB from judging / show the stock 930 - sounds like a great plan... assuming it also means that you now drive the doors off the Ferrari heh heh! Yeah sure, easy for me to say.

Good times, keep up the good work out there.

Congrats on the smog, major phew huh? I'd say pitch that strangling exhaust and rock Brian's headers / exhaust, but it sounds like you want it showstock. That's good / bad... good as it sure is a near perfect time capsule and'd be shame to fuss w/ it as such. Bad b/c these respond sooooooooo wellllllllllll to simple tweaks of intercooler/exhaust/headers/turbo (well, 'simple')... makes it the car it should have been.

Hey Paul, good to hear from you - sorry about you friend, never fun. Alas, seeing bits of those here and there being enjoyed by others will always have him there 'around' for you.
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Awww, that was my friend Mikes car. He passed away at the end of 09 and his collection began to be auctioned atthe Quail Lodge last year or the year before I believe it was. I think the first car sold was his 917 Spyder, He also had an RSR, fact C4 Cup Car and a number of other niceties. And he was the nicest guy!! RIP.

So, I wonder who got this one and where its going?


Oh, and Telerding, very nice score.. the 930 is gorgeous and so are the stablemates!
Onboost, Just to clarify, the picture of the 962 was when my car was being delivered which was in August of 2010. The driver said it, the RSR in front of it and the Cobra were on the way to Monterey for auction. Sorry about your friend. I do have a few other pictures of the 962 and the RSR if you would like them. -John

Telerding, Your car looks great and I applaud you for keeping it stock! I do concur with the others though that a RarlyL8 muffler would make a significant improvement without compromising originality.
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Luftwaffle:

I will definitely look at the Rarelyl8 muffler setup after I remove the cat. I'll find out what the PCA does with aftermarket exhausts in their concours.

Certainly the 911s need help in the exhaust - for sound, as much as performance.

I put exhausts on the "back in the day" 60s 911s I had as well as the 914-6.

The 904s ran open exhaust most of the time, a U-shaped arrangement into a single oval center output. This was a stock racing exhaust. Also had a set of pipes, single for each side with megaphone output. Those had small mufflers built in. Not sure where those came from. Sound from these was incredible!

I'll see if I can dig up pics for any of these cars.
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Would love to see some pics of your previous cars - especially the 904's!

The other muffler option that would certainly pass concours muster would be a RoW muffler which has the same twin outlets as yours but eliminates that cat.
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Luftwaffle:

The cat is a separate unit, and I have the po's bypass tube so I can remove cat, keeping just the muffler. I doubt anyone is going to search that far under the car to see if the cat is still attached. That said, I understand that the PCA judges are pretty anal about things being correct at their shows.

Time will tell.
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I watched as a group of PCA judges completely picked apart an absolutely beautiful '87 (I think) 930 at the '09 Parade. They seemed more interested in impressing each other and anyone within earshot with their "superior knowledge" than honestly assessing the car. More like a witch hunt. As much as I value originality I would never make decisions about my car based on the possible reactions of wankers like that... -John
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+1!
My red 930 will continue to evolve with me... As long as I have the $$$ to keep at it!!!
So much more to do, cage, suspension upgrades, efi + internal motor upgrades once this one needs rebuild, respray, .......
Engine is 69k og miles so hopefully a ways away but now in arizona i think its going to get lots of miles since no rain and A/C actually works
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Luftwaffe: Those judges are jealous because they wished they owned a 930 instead of their boring cayman/ boxster.
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I promised you guys some pictures of my early cars, so:

Top Picture my 65 911
Next down 63 904 S/N 086
to right, 66 911S
Bottom Pic:
63 904 S/N 038, 70 914-6 (extreme right)

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