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Four 914's, at least one 6, and a 904. You had a nice collection. I still think the 904 was the coolest Porsche ever. I never owned one but I did get to drive a friends for a short while.

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Not all these 914s were mine! I owned the right hand 914-6 and the 904. My friends owned the other cars. We all got together one day and parked the cars on my best buddy's lawn.
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Onboost, Just to clarify, the picture of the 962 was when my car was being delivered which was in August of 2010. The driver said it, the RSR in front of it and the Cobra were on the way to Monterey for auction. Sorry about your friend. I do have a few other pictures of the 962 and the RSR if you would like them. -John

Telerding, Your car looks great and I applaud you for keeping it stock! I do concur with the others though that a RarlyL8 muffler would make a significant improvement without compromising originality.
Hey John, would love to see those other photos if Telerding doesn't mind us banging around and sorta highjacking his thread for a moment. Actually, I'c love to see some more photos of Telerding's GTB..I've always loved those cars!

Its funny too, when transporting these cars you never know what else might be riding along.

A friend had his early 911 transported from out west a couple of years back, and the Steve Mcqueen 911S was loaded just behind, and headed NE to its new owner... the same guy who sold it at auction last year!
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dayum Tom, varrrrrrry niiiiiiiiiiiice

THANKS for diggin those up!

love your Rape Protection Glasses heh heh. Cutie in the 1st pic, Mrs. Elerding maybe?

dig the wheels on the silver 904 and your 911 - and a 550 Spider in the background, wowzerz

wow, a red one - not often seen!

love to hear your impressions on them sometime - good for you ya bum! 8-)

more pics, if you somehow have them


ps. WELL!?!?!??? HOW IS YOUR NEW 930!?!?!?!?? heh heh
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The 930 is great, Paul. Driving it evokes long lost memories of my 911: Firm ride, tight steering, great stability (until pushed to the limit!), feeling of connectedness with the car, etc. But the power, my, my, the power! It is so good to have the good manners and power to boot!

Its a great car, and its all I drive for now. Car is entered in its first show this coming Sunday.

Got my license yesterday, so the car is now registered in sweet ol Kalifornia!

The cute young lady in the picture, taken in late 64 I believe, was the love of my life, at least at that point. I let her get away, unfortunately. She died of breast cancer in 2001.
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At the risk of angering the Porsche gods, a few pics of the 72 365GTB/4A:



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A few more:



415 hp at 7200 rpm

You can see/hear it at:

Ferrari 365 GTB/4 Dyno Run - YouTube
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At the risk of angering the Porsche gods, a few pics of the 72 365GTB/4A:

DUDE! You are now officially on double secret probation!

Don't do that again or you WILL BE banned! hahahahaha...
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You have fantastic taste in cars. Do you still own the 904s?
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Gosh, I wish I did! I'd have retired sooner, and still have one.

Most of us back in those days didn't believe that cars were jewelry. We bought 'em, run 'em, and sold 'em. The 904 was a keeper, though. I bought the first one (086) for $7k and drove it regularly for two years or so. Then the second one (038) came up for sale at a Chevy dealer nearby. I went to see it on a lark, and came home with it for $5500.

It was cool because it had a close ratio trans and bigger weber carburetors. Plan was to swap parts and sell (038) after a while, which I did. Drove (086) for a few more years and then decided to "restore" it. I took the whole car apart, almost everything, and stripped all of the metal parts and primed them. Then I got married, was laid off, and ended up two months later with a job at Hughes Aircraft in El Segundo and had to drive 40 miles each way thru LA FREEWAY TRAFFIC for the next 9 years.

Suffice to say I never finished the restoration; I finally sold it for $14K. Just didn't have time or energy to put into it after that.

(086) was eventually finished, painted red, and became a centerfold picture and article in Road and Track Magazine.
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It's just crazy how you talk so matter of fact regarding the 904..."the second one (038) came up for sale at a Chevy dealer nearby" What!!??? Really?! That blows my mind.
Wow, how times have changed...I was born too late..Great story..

Also curious on your impressions regarding your 930..
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Ummmm...

WHERE WAS THE P*RN WARNING on those pics???!!!???

this is just bonkers:



look @ that specacle... oh the headers - excuse me whilst I go have 'a moment'... ah that's better.

Er... wow... the thought of 415hp @ 7200 via a Weber'd 12... oh my. I had the privelage of some WOT time in a Lusso years ago, but only 275 or so horse from the Lampredi lump.

Does the aircover muffle the sound of the stacks at all? I'd want my Freak Flag to FLY heh heh 8-). I got problems.

Daaaaamn, yours looks to be quiiiiite sorted all around - good for you, that's impressive. You offically have Lifetime Mancard Status right thar, esp after owning 2 904s.... whilst commuting in 1. Epic.

Just look @ that leather tool roll - industrial strength and impeccably stitched. Awesome. And your interior is simply off the hook - wow.

I hear you on the 'jewelry' bit - I get admitedly overly ruffled by such prospects... brakedust and exhaust fumes for me puhleeeeeeeeze.

Great stories Tom, thanks for sharing.

Yeah, the 930's sure drive nice. They can be ironed out and dialed in soooooo goooooood w/ a few nominal, sensible tweaks. What the cars should have been.

Good luck in Sun's show!


ps. what's that pic'd to the left of yer motor on the stand thar? Almost smacks of a 288GTO but the NACA's too back... I can't place it... frustrating! 8-)
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Shlobeck: finding (038) at a Chevy dealer was pretty funny even in those days! I don't remember how it got there, but probably a trade-in. They really didn't know what they had, the price was well below market at the time.

Paul: those headers are the factory headers on the Euro Daytonas! Those help the Euro cars make 15 more hp than the US cars. The air cleaner does muffle the sound of the engine a bit, but there is enough sound to make any car junky happy!

The air cleaner also reduces hp by almost 20 horses. The black car in the pic is probably a Ferrari 308 with faux 288 GTO bodywork. Site of pic is Carobu Engineering in Costa Mesa, CA. That's where my engine was rebuilt after an exhaust valve head broke off.....
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Wow.

I don't know what I'm looking at, but that ferrari stuff is sure cool. Unobtainable Ferraris are so awesome. Love the headers on that motor. I want to hear that thing howl.
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Zakthor: Well, follow the youtube link and turn up the volume!

The engine dyno runs were done with my complete street exhaust, so the car on the street sounds just like the youtube recording.

I run no center mufflers, just the rear resonators. Reasonably quiet for normal driving, but when you get on it, it must be 115 db.
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Zakthor:

What you are looking at is a state of the art Ferrari engine, circa 1968.

The motor is all aluminum block and heads, with steel cylinder sleeves, V-12, dual distributor (one for each side of the engine), dry sump oil system with dual oil filtering, 4 camshafts, 6 2-throat Weber 40DCN21 carburetors, 270 cubic inch displacement (4.4 liters), 2 valves per cylinder.

Stock the horsepower rating was 352. In race trim, the engines put out between 400 and 550 horsepower depending on when the engines were built up.

1280 coupes and 120 spyders were built from 1969 through 1973, a fairly large production run for Ferrari in that time period. One of the last cars designed and produced totally under Enzo Ferrari's management.

The successor to the Daytona was the 365 Berlinetta Boxer, which featured a mid-engine layout with a flat 12 horizontal opposed engine (think two 911 engines laid out nose to tail).
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Just to keep the conversation flowing, two more of my cars from that same era:




and



The first two pictures are stock photos, as I have none of my own of that car.
Engine pic for second car is also stock photo.
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Telerding; you cannot possibly drive all those cars at once, or even enough to do them justice in the spirit of the law.
That said, I would like to volunteer krasuskyp to serge them for you occasionally. Maybe he could stop off in chgo. and pick me up on the way out?
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Oh shart, ^there^ goes the neighborhood!

BALONEY!

Ha! HaHA - HA!

Pelican cannot handle Serge 8-). Bad enough they're stuck w/ me.

Fly out again this Aug and drive the TR3 home? Likely FS. Alas... I'm bracing myself for a Maphoneyless //SFest this year - oh the humanity. Sigh.

Tom, again reiterating... you have fantastic taste in cars good sir. Keep up the good work out thar. And I'm entirely at ease knowing you are NOT located annnnnnywhere near ^Mr. Balogna^... or me for that matter 8-). Would just not be right heh heh.

115dB... I LOL'd! Oh my. Biatchin!! Just watched Youboobage... incredulous sound!!! Snapped exhaust valve... damn, you must have literally barfed. Cannot fathom.
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Gentlemen:

Just wanted to clarify: the only cars I currently own are the '72 365GTB/4, the '66 Mustang, the 2004 BMW M3, and the 1986 Porsche 930.

All the other cars shown or mentioned above I had back in the 60s and 70s, all but the 904s purchased new.

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