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78 930, wheels - will these fit?

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Will these wheels fit?

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Offset is not specified in the ad but is likely all wrong for a 930. You might need 4" spacers. Calling Verburg.
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He states they fit 930, but...

I know people use the twist wheels from 996t

I have done some measuring based on the photos and guesstimates. It looks doable, but I do not want to run redicules spacers.

Thanks for chiming in
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[QUOTE=jsveb;7260360]He states they fit 930, but...

I know people use the twist wheels from 996t

I have a early 930 that had turbo twists. Bump steer was terrible, could not wait to get them off. The 2 1/2 inch spacers required on the front were just wrong for the 930 suspension so wheels requiring more spacers would be even worse. In the 2nd photo are the BBS 16 X 8 & 16 X 10 made for a 930 I put on and were a major improvement. The BBS are now in storage in case you are interested. I also have a set of ROH Reflex wheels 16X 87 & 16 x 8 ( made in Australia ) for a 930, I would also part with very reasonably , and are just taking up space. They look very similar to turbo twist as they were styled in the 90s. Unless you have over 400 HP either of these wheels should be plenty wide for street use.
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Jesper,
I had kind of similar wheel on my white 78 930. They are 18'', but do not remember offset.
Think I had 2'' spacer rear and 1,5'' front (or maybe it was 1,5''rear and 1'' front)



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Does anybody know for sure what were the offsets for factory 16in 1978 and the factory spacers if there were any?
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I like my wheels (17 inch).
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Does anybody know for sure what were the offsets for factory 16 1978 and the factory spacers if there were any?
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The spacers were 20mm front and 29mm rear in those years.
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I like my wheels (17 inch).
I like them also. Very pricy to buy now. I had a 86 Ruff years ago with the same wheels. My Ruff was black/black
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He states they fit 930, but...



I know people use the twist wheels from 996t



I have a early 930 that had turbo twists. Bump steer was terrible, could not wait to get them off. The 2 1/2 inch spacers required on the front were just wrong for the 930 suspension so wheels requiring more spacers would be even worse. In the 2nd photo are the BBS 16 X 8 & 16 X 10 made for a 930 I put on and were a major improvement. The BBS are now in storage in case you are interested. I also have a set of ROH Reflex wheels 16X 8 & 16 x 10 ( made in Australia ) for a 930, I would also part with very reasonably , and are just taking up space. They look very similar to turbo twist as they were styled in the 90s. Unless you have over 400 HP either of these wheels should be plenty wide for street use.

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Thank you very much for the offers.

I have got a certain style in mind. If you saw my car you'd understand.
It is special wishes: matte schwarz. So I'd like to stay all black or maybe gold centers. Am also considering tru-design Fuchs, but budget is very limited right now. So kind of naive, but if I could snatch a set of good wheels for cheap, that would be great.

Appreciate the response guys this is just an initial response as I have just arrived at a hotel in Orlando. Headed for key west
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Post pics of your car!

I have never been a fan of using adapters, due to the added stress it puts on the hub.

The wheels you linked on eBay are the wrong offset.

Also, you can't just ask for offsets. Offset is directly dependant on the width (offset is the measurement of the offset from the center of the wheel), so ideal offset can change depending on width.

Lovin these pics!

Take care!
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I have done some measuring based on the photos and guesstimates. It looks doable, but I do not want to run redicules spacers.
You will need ridiculous spacers.

If these wheels came off a 996, you will need big adapters to fit your older car.
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You will need ridiculous spacers.

If these wheels came off a 996, you will need big adapters to fit your older car.
When I had my 79 930, the PO had some 18x8x11 wheels installed on the car. They were meant for a 996 turbo, but they did fit my car. The rears did not have any spacers, but the front required a 2" spacer.

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I only have my iPhone right now, so I can't post pics.

I could email a couple if you'd post them?

I don't want wheels, that require big spacers or destroyes the handling of the car.
Based on my preliminary measurements, it just didnt seem that bad. Oh well

Thanks guys.
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I don't want wheels, that require big spacers or destroys the handling of the car.

The original Fuchs are right for many reasons. They should be available for less than the wheels you were looking at. I also like the vintage German Ronnal as pictured below on the same 930 as on my previous post.
The German Ronnal, BBS or Fuchs all use factory offset, 20mm front and 29mm rear spacers. I think the BBS and Ronnal were a good a option back then as they could be ordered as 8" front & 9"- 10" rear width as opposed to the 7" & 8" width Fuchs that came stock with the 930 till 1986.
They were a good upgrade especially to 930's that were changed to the factory Weltmeister ralle or race suspension available back then and a modified motor etc. A subtle reminder it was faster than stock.





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I am reviving this in hope of more advice.

First, I know, I owe you pictures of my car, but I have been traveling most of the time since posting this, with only little time with the 930.

I got two reasons to want other wheels on my 930.
1. Looks, want wider.
2. Tire availability on the 16" rims is limited and getting worse it seems.

If it made sense, I would put on 15 or 16" but it is in direct conflict with reason #2. Hence out of the question.

This leaves 17&18" as the options. I think 18" would be best for tire availability, but what would you guys recommend?

I have been looking and inquiring on wheels here on PP, but been rather indecisive, since fitment and the above consideration did not add up.
I am considering having a set of wheels build, but that would exclude me from getting some of my favorites, BBS mag motorsports.
If I had them build, it would prob be black anodized classic CCWs

Because of the change in handling going from 16 to 17 or even more so up to 18s, I know, it will be a compromise, but I simply can't afford TB15 tires or the likes which smaller diameter wheels would require.

Give me your 2c, please
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In the 2nd photo are the BBS 16 X 8 & 16 X 10 made for a 930 I put on and were a major improvement. The BBS are now in storage in case you are interested. I also have a set of ROH Reflex wheels 16X 87 & 16 x 8 ( made in Australia ) for a 930, I would also part with very reasonably , and are just taking up space.
Voiture,
Since this thread was revitalized, did you still have those 996 wheels? If so, could you please PM me with specifics, price?
Thanks.

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I am reviving this in hope of more advice.

First, I know, I owe you pictures of my car, but I have been traveling most of the time since posting this, with only little time with the 930.

I got two reasons to want other wheels on my 930.
1. Looks, want wider.
2. Tire availability on the 16" rims is limited and getting worse it seems.

If it made sense, I would put on 15 or 16" but it is in direct conflict with reason #2. Hence out of the question.

This leaves 17&18" as the options. I think 18" would be best for tire availability, but what would you guys recommend?

I have been looking and inquiring on wheels here on PP, but been rather indecisive, since fitment and the above consideration did not add up.
I am considering having a set of wheels build, but that would exclude me from getting some of my favorites, BBS mag motorsports.
If I had them build, it would prob be black anodized classic CCWs

Because of the change in handling going from 16 to 17 or even more so up to 18s, I know, it will be a compromise, but I simply can't afford TB15 tires or the likes which smaller diameter wheels would require.

Give me your 2c, please
I moved to 17s because of tire availability and wider sizes. You can go either 17 or 18, but I prefer 17s because the slightly taller sidewall gives a better ride. Standard +1 sizing would give you a 255, but I run a 275. With wider rims, you can go to 315 depending on offset.

Have you considered Euromeister Fuchs replicas? I have a set of 17s, but never had the time to mount tires. They are quite light and you will retain the classic Fuchs look at a very reasonable price.
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I moved to 17s because of tire availability and wider sizes. You can go either 17 or 18, but I prefer 17s because the slightly taller sidewall gives a better ride. Standard +1 sizing would give you a 255, but I run a 275. With wider rims, you can go to 315 depending on offset.

Have you considered Euromeister Fuchs replicas? I have a set of 17s, but never had the time to mount tires. They are quite light and you will retain the classic Fuchs look at a very reasonable price.
I have considered aftermarket Fuchs, but I don't blive euromeisters make any wider than 9". This rules them out for me.
Braid however will be marketing the 11s soon, I believe.
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PICTURES as promised, with delay

Took it out for a quick spin.

Color: special wishes Lesonal 704, matte Schwartz, badge delete - pretty cool, don't you think?



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