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Uncle,
If you dont have the ECU yet can I suggest Adaptronic. Andy is the founder and lives in Sydney. He's a great guy and I've had years of experience of him personally taking care of tuning on a number of cars.

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Adaptronic make a great product but it's twice the price I can get the Haltech for. Another thing for me to consider is the tuner I'll use is also a Haltech dealer so I know he can do it all with his eyes closed.
My sprint 500 with loom will come in at well under 1k..
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Sounds reasonable.

Watch those Haltech ignitors. I had 3 go bad on me, by Haltech's own admission.
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Well its about time I did an update...
Thanks lads to the lads at Dzug for this nice new 935 pulley


I got a good deal from Dale at Castle Hill exhaust so I picked up a cheap ECU to look after things.




My next job was to modify the 3ltr inlet manifold insulators to for the Weber's to work with the 3.2ltr EFI manifold I was planning to run.





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Next job was to clean up the 3.2ltr manifold and give it a nice coat of wrinkle Black paint.





Test fit.

The new turbo fitted up.


Along with the wastegate.
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Dish wheels that I just got the new outer barrels for. Next is to powdercoat them black








Fuel reg tucked away and working on LS1 coil mount locations.

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Now where was I?

Ahh fitting the 935 Pulley..

Out with the old.


In with the new.




New was to get rid of the Dizzy. Here is a before.


After.

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044 and swirl pot mounted up the front next to the tank.


Intercooler mounts made and cooler mounted up. I'll get some new new bends once I have it running again along with giving everything a good clean.


Catch can for the oil system and that brings us about up to date with progress so far.
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Next I remade some stuff that was annoying me like the oil return set up and the non German beer catch can..






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Next I remade some stuff that was annoying me like the oil return set up and the non German beer catch can..



Uncle,
I echo everyone else's kudos, and have some questions that I can learn from:

1) I'm interested how you mounted your scavenger pump for the turbo. You have a bar attached to the right body, to which the pump is strapped. It looks like you might have the opposite end attached to the engine? Surely not --- but if the two ends of the bar are not attached, do you get a lot of shake (thinking that the shake will be amplified at the end of a stick -- physics thing)?

2) I want a catch can like that. Not being familiar with that brand of German beer, is the can flimsy aluminum (like our US beers), or is it a robust steel can?

Thanks.
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I haven't quite finished the mount yet. I plan to triangulate the mount off either the engine carrier or the chassis rail and remove the other end if that make sense. Your right in needing to isolate the harmonics. Either way I need to keep the pump around that location to make room for a muffler and keep some fall for the pump. I am not sure how well these pumps self prime if I was to raise it higher than the drip tank.

Can is made out of light weight steel. Should last a while.
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Oh I should also add I have billet mounts and RSR bar (if you missed that bit) so that part of the carrier see's little movement. Thinking about it the "L" bracket might act as a nice damper on the "C" channel after I do fit a down spar from the top of the carrier.

Hmm.
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Got it.
Appreciate final pics. The "fall" of the pump also concerns me on my project. Have worries that mounting the Werx pump up high will result in poor oil movement -- and too low will result in getting scraped on the ground at some point.
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And remade with added brace..



I also moved the intake filter. I'll either make a box for it here or cut a hole in the inner wheel arch and run it back into the engine bay.



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Anyways more work has gone on.
Fitted dry sump tank breather cap.


Cut 930 size hole in the deck lid then make up some extra spars to stiffen it up a little. Intercoolers make for good beer stands.


Looking at the spars they will make for a great place to run some water/meth sprayers later on.


Oil pump bracket V2.1


Pulled the turbo off and fitted rear engine tin with a new hole for intercooler pipe. While it was out I pulled the cold side housing clip off and rotated it so the oil drain is not 100% vertical rather than the slight tilt it was on.
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thanks for the pics of the scavenge oil pump mount.
Also, I like the way that air cleaner is tucked away from engine heat -- and makes engine compartment less crowded.
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Uncle,
Uh, I guess I'm still thick despite your previous answers to my questions, which I thought I understood...

Per the pics, it does look like the right end of your pump support bracket is attached to an L-bracket that attaches to the right body (a rigid structure), and the left end of the support bracket attaches to the engine casing (which will shake a lot).

Is this correct?
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While it has got some shake to it there is not a lot. I've got billet engine mounts and an RSR rear engine bar so that back end has very little flex. Inside the car is a 6 point factory RS Matter roll cage that also takes a heap of flex out of the chassis.
To take the vibs out I also have the pump brackets all mounted on some 2mm hard rubber washers.
The L bracket is not doing much other than acting as a damper. The C channel provides all the support for the pump. I could in fact take the L bracket out all together but its not going to hurt to leave it there and the weight of it is only a few grams. You will also note the slight gap between the C channel and the L bracket. It should leave enough of a gap should any flex need to happen.

It did also cross my mind that this my help with pump noise transfer into the cabin. Mounting it onto the body has to increase noise as per Gav's thread. I guess we will see. If I hate it I'll get a 5R pump and move this pump to gearbox cooling duties.

I'll run it for a week and see how it's going.
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While it has got some shake to it there is not a lot. I've got billet engine mounts and an RSR rear engine bar so that back end has very little flex. Inside the car is a 6 point factory RS Matter roll cage that also takes a heap of flex out of the chassis.
To take the vibs out I also have the pump brackets all mounted on some 2mm hard rubber washers.

Oh, now i get it (again) -- solid engine mounts and rigid frame -- plus rubber isolators.
I have been hearing quite a bit about scavenger pump noise. There even was a post where they removed the pump because it was far too loud (louder than the exhaust, as I recall they said).
Thanks for the great feedback. Keep updates rolling.

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