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Hi Torque Starter

ok, i am sick of dealing with fixing these starters. I am going to go HI torque. anyone out there have product suggestions. our hosts looks like it will do fine but wanted to be sure before i bought one.

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Old 04-01-2013, 07:22 AM
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I bought mine off of eBay.
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I replace mine, 1987 911 Carrera, with H.D. starter, with rebuilt (new) from Pelican.
New style Permanent Magnet starter motor. Bosch made and noted that it is a direct replacement, even though it looks different.
Permanent magnets make the starter motor physically smaller and lighter than the O.E.M. version, and it seems to spin the engine faster than the original, only downside is it sounds different! No Gearing as in Hi Torque Starter, which also sounds different/funny.
Another option, but not sure how you would specify the new style if there are original style still in the system.

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hey, John

i bought a Tilton HT starter 17 years ago, light wieght and still going strong.
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so the refurbished bosch is made differently now?
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Yep, not rebuilt, but new design as in new, never used! Got core deposit for old original, but "rebuilt' is new.
Only downside is funny noise when spinning. I'll get used to it I'M SURE.
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thx johnny and helio.
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High torque starters are cheaper, lighter, and require less juice to run.........it's a no-brainer. Plus, they sound cool.

Oh yeah, and easier to install.

The only possible drawback is a slower turnover speed if that is a drawback at all....
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I also have the Tilton one on my car.... it is definitely a quality piece.... Actually one of the things I have never had any trouble from!
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Tippy,
The new PM Bosch starter spins faster, apparently has more torque than the wound field DC motors, I would guess that it uses less current as well.
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Curious how fast?

Mine spins the engine around 175-180 RPM.
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Tippy,
Well my tach doesn't register during starting so I can't give you an absolute number, it just sounds like it spins faster, I'm getting used to the new sound.

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Hmm, sure it isn't gear reduction? They "sound" faster.
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ok i went back to a OEM starter. not a rebuild but brand new. now when i replaced the solenoid a month ago i had to put the post type ends on the wires. i now need to go back to the oem ends to match up to the tiny screws. anyone have a picture of what wire goes to what terminal?
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After about 3 rebuilt starters. Gave up and went with a high torque one. That was several years ago and never looked back. Best thing i ever did with the exception of relacing the green wire on the distributor.
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i have to say the new starter is working well, crank right over etc. etc. i don't notice much different? i know some said the sound was different but i did not notice. i figured the original lasted almost 30 years so the a brand new replacement should be similar?
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I doubt it'll last another 30 years due offshore manufacturing and cheaper components used but I hope I'm wrong.
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yeah you may be right, thats why i went with the bosch as it seems more authentic but i doubt it is.

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