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Sorry to hear about the problems with insurance co's especially State Farm. Thanks for sharing your story for others to learn including myself. May your car be repaired to as good or better condition than before!

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Old 07-08-2014, 12:32 PM
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Unfortunately painting of the car has been delayed again, since the glasurit master tech was sick. The painter at Dell was trained by this tech and want to discuss with him before painting my car. They should meet an evening this week so the painting can proceed.
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Small update,

I am now struggling somewhat with the shop, and communication as well as progress. They do not seem to reach good results on the finish, and what I saw on Thursday concerns me. I saw several panels (rear quarter extension, cibie lights, head. Light rings etc) that had been painted, but there were several dust specks and the sheen varied greatly between the parts. Not even close to satisfactory.

The painter should be working on it this weekend, and hopefully things looks better by Monday.

I hope after seven plus months that they will be able to finish this up soon.
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Small update,

I am now struggling somewhat with the shop, and communication as well as progress. They do not seem to reach good results on the finish, and what I saw on Thursday concerns me. I saw several panels (rear quarter extension, cibie lights, head. Light rings etc) that had been painted, but there were several dust specks and the sheen varied greatly between the parts. Not even close to satisfactory.

The painter should be working on it this weekend, and hopefully things looks better by Monday.

I hope after seven plus months that they will be able to finish this up soon.
With glossy paint you can usually color/wet sand and buff out small dust specs but with the matte finish you have... nope.
Do you wax this matte finish or just wash it?
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I have the "Mat Black finish" no sanding involved ... went on wet and flat dried flat with no orange peel . I could check with my painter and see what kind of paint was used . It does take some talent to spray this kind of paint with no wet sanding . It will show the painters strokes if not applied right when it dries .

Hope all turns out well for you

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Jim, I just wash it.
There is a pelican who owns graffhaus in Santa Cruz, he has got a product he calls topcoat. It is kind of a seal like rain shield, except this works on matte finishes without giving any gloss to the finish.

Kozmo, I know ppg makes a product, "flex and flat", however, this shop is HIGH END, and they use glasurit. Furthermore, this and California, voc regulations seem to cause problems.

Please post some more shots of your car when you get it out in the open again.
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Jim, I just wash it.
There is a pelican who owns graffhaus in Santa Cruz, he has got a product he calls topcoat. It is kind of a seal like rain shield, except this works on matte finishes without giving any gloss to the finish.

Kozmo, I know ppg makes a product, "flex and flat", however, this shop is HIGH END, and they use glasurit. Furthermore, this and California, voc regulations seem to cause problems.

Please post some more shots of your car when you get it out in the open again.
I will post some pics ,it even looks real good cleaned up on jack stands

You might be right about the PPG I think that is what they sprayed mine with . Our restoration shop uses Glasurit products to , maybe ask our painter what he would use . They have to have water base correct ? I have in's at another shop and all they use is water base I can ask him about it to . I will give them a ring tomorrow and get back to you . But the dust ??? there must be something wrong with the paint booth to get it in the paint ...

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This was right after we pulled it out of the shop ... Nothing done to it , no wiping or dusting , just bolted things together and pushed it outside . Yes it is flat no orange peel at all

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Koz, how bad do the spray tracks look in person? I ask because it seems like there is some prominent striping on the right rear quarter panel (maybe an optical illusion, though). I haven't seen a flat sprayed car in person, but any pics I see of them, the tracks just jump out at me.
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As I said in previous post...

"takes some talent to spray this paint otherwise it shows" ask me how I know

We put a second coat on after this , but it does show how flat the paint can be

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It has been painted, well almost.

I was up at Dell autobody in Campbell this weekend. The car has finally been painted except for the hood, which needs to be redone.






Flawed hood:


I know there is not much to see, but at least things are lining up, so to speak. Still no news regarding State Farm and coverage. I am anxiously waiting for what is going to happen when I am to pick up the car and State Farm does not pay...there is a lot more to it than that, but this is in essence what might happen a little over a week from now.

The question remains: how can an insurance co, State Farm, deny to pay a bill from a certified repair facility in a subrogation case where I was hit by another car, with him admitting, and me being fully (comprehensive) covered?

I have had to pay a lot of visits to the shop over the past 8 months -- yes that is correct, 8 months -- to ensure things progressed even just a little.

I am just looking fwd to closing this chapter and move on.
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Sad situation.
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What are the 4 holes in the flawed hood for?
Looks like the paint was sprayed on real heavy so the solvents wouldn't flash off before the next sweep of the spray gun and it would flow out good.
From the streak going off the bottom right hole it doesn't look like the hood was laying flat in that area and the paint was thinned out alot and it accumulated around the edge of the hole from surface tension and some of it flowed downhill away from the hole before the solvents flashed off or evaporated enough to hold it all in place.
The correct evaporation rate reducer/thinner for the temperature and humidity has to be just right.
I can see how that kind of paint could be very difficult to get a consistant smooth matte finish.

Good luck with it all.
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Thanks Jim.

Those holes are for the Cibie hood lights.

The painter was puzzled as to why this happened, until I pointed out it had only happened by the holes that was not completely sealed of w tape, creating local inconsistency, which, as you note, cannot be remedied with this type of finish.
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Hi Jesper, just a thought while all nuts and bolts are on table, perhaps what I would do

1) Take all screws, nuts and bolts
--> push them thru labelled (like 1, 2, 3) cardboard pieces, so that the order is not lost

2) Take the cardboard pieces to a specialist nut/bolt store - buy new ones with same spec (or perhaps stainless steel)... same length, same thread.
- ask the shop to find the replacements... they can do it in 15 minutes, while for you it would take ages.

If some of the fasteners look not correct, check from WSM what is (period) correct.

It makes a whole lot of a difference, if you use new and correct fasteners. And only costs perhaps 20-30 dollars for you...
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Hwy, thanks for the suggestions. I would do exactly as you suggests, if it wasn't for all the hassle I've had so far. I do not want to muddy this up in any way regarding what was done on the car and who paid for what.
If I did this on my own. Id completely restore it. This is, however, not a restoration, it is an accident repair and I tread carefully to be able to argue my case later. All I asked the shop and expect from my insurance is to bring my car back in preaccident condition. This has proved a challenge...

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Please have a look at this last post and help set me straight if necessary. I said I needed help, indeed I believe I do...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/paint-bodywork-discussion-forum/818254-glasurit-satin-clear-question.html
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Does this mean it all worked out?
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Looking nice so far

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