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Ayrton Senna respected the 930

Many rumors on the net about this. I did manage to find a obscure reference to this in one of my many Porsche books. I would much like to find more on this subject.




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...omitted from that page but ohsomostcertainly on the next pages:
"Senna was only demoralized by those glamorously rarified and distinctively honorable purebredified examples displaying the TRUE _9_3_0_ digits in the VIN, those with floating rotors - as - those... were THE only 'true' 930s worthy of any mention to the name."
True story.

Sidestory: Senna also daily drove a urS6 Plus... kinda kewl if yer a fellow Audiot:



only one in North America, in mah driveway (and in er um uh - 'good company', noless!)

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Looks like he had an '87 3.2 Cab

Drove a 956 in the '84 Nurenburgring 1000 (finished 8th)


More OT for Pauly...

Senna Sold Audis in Brazil





Transulation of Senna's comments in Blue:

Quattro system
Is the best advantage over Audi competitors. With this system you have a better stability How the four wheels traction and there is no risk of one of the axle skid in a fast corner. On the rain this system is fantastic. Ensures safety to the passengers.

Safety
In Germany I drove a Avant S4 (station wagon of the tested car) in some autobahn over 240km/h. I did an experience: I pulled of my hands of the steering wheel and pressed the brake. The car stopped in a straight line with no fading. I got impressed with brake system and ABS efficiency.

Overboost
It was a resource that we used in Formula 1 turbo era. At the moment to pass another car we only pressed a button on the steering wheel and the turbo exceed a higher pressure above the engine. The S4 has this same resource, but it’s automatic. The engine receives 25cv more instantly. To overcome a truck in a single road the overboost ensures this action faster and safely.
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Hey Mcstiff, is your username reflective of your physical condition (as Paul would say, "down thar") when you are behind the wheel?
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Hey Mcstiff, is your username reflective of your physical condition (as Paul would say, "down thar") when you are behind the wheel?


That's a new one No room for dat under the wheel!

Here's the story, circa 2000 I go to Moab with a group for a weekend of mountain biking. We see


From then on, to that group, I was Mcstiff. Used it as a screen name on one forum and since, for continuity, I've used it everywhere. Back in about '04, when I was single, Eddie McStiff's in Moab was up for sale; smartly I did not decide to try out the food service ownership thing.

Way easier than something catchy for ever different venue
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so what does that mean that he was "demoralized" by the 930?
i dont see how anything could impress someone that drives the fastest car in the world.

i have also read that there are quite a few race car drivers that put the 928 at the top of their list.

i just watched "senna" again, actually 3 times in a row back to back.
was prost on his team when he died?

my favorite line:
"he did not want to just beat me, he wanted to humiliate me"....and he did
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Does anyone have any quotes from Niki about his 930?
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so what does that mean that he was "demoralized" by the 930?
i dont see how anything could impress someone that drives the fastest car in the world.

i have also read that there are quite a few race car drivers that put the 928 at the top of their list.

i just watched "senna" again, actually 3 times in a row back to back.
was prost on his team when he died?

my favorite line:
"he did not want to just beat me, he wanted to humiliate me"....and he did
While I was doing an internship at Porsche North America Motorsports in the early 90's, I got to drive a 928 S4 GTS...extremely competent car, but very little to do except point and shoot it. Little driver involvement.

Someone stated Senna sold Audi's? Coming from a family with very deep pockets and totally dedicated to his racing, that's one I find hard to believe he reduced himself to a car salesman.
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Does it say somewhere in the article that Senna said it was demoralizing? Both the article and caption next to the picture that was posted above say that Denis Jenkinson said it was demoralizing. Hard to believe that Senna who drove F1 thought a 930 was too much for him to cope with.

T77911S, Prost had retired by the time Senna passed.

Edit , OK see it in the next post but very hard to believe he was demoralized by a 930. The dude was driving cars way faster and squirly then a 930 as fast as he could in the rain.
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[QUOTE=Tilikum Turbo;7925565 reduced himself to a car salesman.[/QUOTE]

Don't you think that remark of him in the photo was a spoof? However in some states if you buy and sell two or more cars in a year you must apply for dealer and salesman license . How many cars have you curbed in any given year? By this legal definition many on this forum might just be closet car salesman. I have, and that is one reason why I am a law abiding Licensed dealer and car salesman. (Also currently a Porsche 930 collector who will buy and sell some from time to time)
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When I think of Formula 1 guys and 930's, I think of Danny Ongais. The Flyin' Hawaiian came to Formula 1 via ... NHRA drag racing. He only had a couple of starts. Probably most famous for Indianapolis. He jumped in Scott Brayton's car when he was killed in practice and finished 7th. He could, and did, drive a 930.

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Does it say somewhere in the article that Senna said it was demoralizing? Both the article and caption next to the picture that was posted above say that Denis Jenkinson said it was demoralizing. Hard to believe that Senna who drove F1 thought a 930 was too much for him to cope with.

T77911S, Prost had retired by the time Senna passed.

Edit , OK see it in the next post but very hard to believe he was demoralized by a 930. The dude was driving cars way faster and squirly then a 930 as fast as he could in the rain.
yes, but at the end of the movie when he crashed, it looked like prost was now on the "tech" side of the team. did they make amends and prost join team on the management side?
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Someone stated Senna sold Audi's? Coming from a family with very deep pockets and totally dedicated to his racing, that's one I find hard to believe he reduced himself to a car salesman.
Uh... I'm prettttttty sure this meant he owned the dealership

Wazzup, Captin' Mcstiffy... fergot you trolled here. "Know" you from QW but not your name 8-).

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yes, but at the end of the movie when he crashed, it looked like prost was now on the "tech" side of the team. did they make amends and prost join team on the management side?
Prost was actually an announcer for French coverage of F1 by 1994 and the two had made amends. A few days before Imola, Senna was filming an in-car lap for the channel Alain worked and stated, "A special hello to my,... to our dear friend Alain. We all miss you Alain."

Prost was a pall-bearer at his funeral also.

I'm not sure, but Prost may have been working for Renault in 1994 as he does today, but I doubt it due to his commitments announcing the races.
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watch the end of the movie. when he crashes prost gets out of one of those booths the race teams use.
i watched the movie again the other night. i thought about doing a thread that everytime someone watches the movie they can post it. i think i have around 3 times for the past month.
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Uh... I'm prettttttty sure this meant he owned the dealership

Wazzup, Captin' Mcstiffy... fergot you trolled here. "Know" you from QW but not your name 8-).

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Yeppo, see the bottom of that urS4 ad "Senna Imports" aka Audi Brazil till ~'05. I'd say, to a certain extent, a race team is in sales but that could be another thread. Anyway, lest I appear to know more than I do, a member of S2 Forum says:

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The car test happend in Interlagos circuit I believe that in the beginning of 1994. There is a history that before Brazilian Grand Prix (second race of the season) Senna went to Interlagos in the middle of the week and with Interlagos‘ Director (Edgard Mello Filho) Senna drove his Audi at the track but on the wrong way.

The official sales of Audi started in Brazil in 1994 by Senna Import, some years later Audi AG bought 51% of the company and the name changed to Audi Senna, and when the contract expired the name changed to Audi Brasil. My father worked 8 years in these companies at technical department. He told me that sometimes an employee of Senna family went to technical department with his S4 V8 and a Honda NSX to a maintenance.
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Will hung ? Mcstiff? What's going on here?!?!?!?!
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His McLaren was able to catch a 930 with a 1 min head start at Estoril.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCbR-iq4kBQ
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