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At a little over 400lb it's over 100lb lighter than a 930 engine.
Hmmm... according manual a 930/60 weights 230kg (507lbs). this is including everything except tranny (so with airbox, air injection, CIS, flywheel, exhaust system including muffler, etc...)

Same with that chevrolet engine? including exhaust system etc...?

I only found this:

"a complete aluminum 427 must weigh close to 463 pounds"
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the car looks amazing. i am sure the power and lack of turbo lagg is also amazing, but why ruin a 930.
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It looks like a cool car too me. I think the fact that it says its never been registered in the us and has a salvage title hurts the value more than the water pumper in the back.
My thoughts exactly.

The salvage title is a no-go for me.
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the car looks amazing. i am sure the power and lack of turbo lagg is also amazing, but why ruin a 930.
The car has a salvage title and is an imported race car that potentially doesn't have any paper work. The eBay story doesn't make sense as most states don't even have emissions and even in California an LS1 should be easy to get SMOG'd as it's a newer engine update. Just run a cat.
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Hmmm... according manual a 930/60 weights 230kg (507lbs). this is including everything except tranny (so with airbox, air injection, CIS, flywheel, exhaust system including muffler, etc...)

Same with that chevrolet engine? including exhaust system etc...?

I only found this:

"a complete aluminum 427 must weigh close to 463 pounds"
Good question. No surprise, it's difficult to find consistent data online! What I read is that fully dressed (headers, alternator) and no clutch it's 425lb.
Every time we've shipped a complete 930 engine (exhaust, IC), it's been a little over 540lb without the pallet.
Regardless, it's no brutishly heavy 1970s iron block.

I'm not calling it a 930, and it would surely be a different driving experience than one, but I still give it 2 thumbs up for the fun factor! :-)
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I love my my antiquated air cooled 3.3 and would never consider a swap. That said I followed lin7310948's build and I think it's bad ass. Extremely well executed.
Pretty hard to argue with the #s. 700=+ H.P. Modern fueling etc. etc. And IIRC it weighs less than a 3.3
I love everything about the Fleabay car except the mirrors and, oh yah...the price.
Dude's smoked up higher than 50 hippies at Woodstock.
If you want a larger fun factor than this evil bay offer; send your 911 roller with an LS7 crate engine over to Renegade in Las Vegas. Have them assemble it for you while you throw down some snaps at the Venetian or casino of your choice. If your roller is titled, and pre 1975, you are gold with California (no smog req.), maybe other states as well.
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I drove a friends ls7 converted 911 a few laps at Watkins glen a few yrs ago, it was outstanding!
When we used to race Chevys, an all alum sbc 383ci weighed in at 390#, that's with Brodex heads.
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I drove a friends ls7 converted 911 a few laps at Watkins glen a few yrs ago, it was outstanding!
When we used to race Chevys, an all alum sbc 383ci weighed in at 390#, that's with Brodex heads.
Of course you would have to add all water, water lines, radiater, fan, shroud, ducking, and carb etc. to have a equal comparison, which is a lot more than 390#'s

At 12OK it better be a lot more fun than a Ruf modified 930, which is cheaper. otherwise it is just fun, expensive bastard.
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In the '80's, I purchased a '67 911 that a Porsche dealer had stuck a 912 engine into. Out it came and in went a GM "big journal" 302 (a late sixties Z28 motor). Cast iron 4-bolt main with alum heads, carbed, etc. Nothing special. I cammed it for high rpm hp and took away the low end torque so the 915 trannie would live. A Kevlar KEP clutch worked fine.

Evenso, with the light weight of the swb, 330 hp seemed like much more. It would holeshot a massaged 930 BIG TIME but the 930 would gather it back in at about 100 mph. Effortless acceleration, easy/cheap to work on, and would eat tires like hors d oevures. That car was kicks but it'd kill you in a heartbeat. It got REALLY nervous near the edge and forgave NO mistakes. Ask me how I know; I got it into a tank slapper, peeled a tire off the tire bead while drifting sideways, and flipped it.

It sure was fun while it lasted. I really appreciate what this guy has built!
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No matter how good that V-8 is, that original flat-six has something in spades the V-8 will never have: a very low center of gravity.

At real speed beyond 100MPH, I can only think of a line from the movie Apollo 13 where Tom Hanks is struggling with the spacecraft: "like flying with an elephant on your back".
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Good point on the cooling system's weight, albeit distributed throughout the car.

Thinking out loud, do you think the center of gravity is that much higher with a dry sump all-aluminum engine?
Great quote! ;-)
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Good point on the cooling system's weight, albeit distributed throughout the car.

Thinking out loud, do you think the center of gravity is that much higher with a dry sump all-aluminum engine?
Great quote! ;-)
Did you actually mean the center of gravity is that much lower with the flat six? If that was the intent of the question, than absolutely...the flat six is much lower.
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