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2 Ruf's 930 for sale..not mine

These cars seem to be well priced. Considering the Ruf add ons, it can be a good deal if all checks out.
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Once heard there's "one born every minute".

Neither of them are real Ruf's anymore than my 911SC with a 930 engine make a 930 Porsche.
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Once heard there's "one born every minute".

Neither of them are real Ruf's anymore than my 911SC with a 930 engine make a 930 Porsche.
First off I would like to say I'm not cheerleading for the dealer..just want to put that out there. The cars are not Ruf vin but they are Ruf conversions done by Exclusive Motorcars (an authorize Ruf reseller back in the day). Realistically Ruf started as a tuner then he gained the mfr status. Both cars have plenty of high dollar Ruf parts, up to and including engine and tranny. If your were to ship your car to Ruf in Germany and he were to convert/tune it using his parts from his catalog, than I would consider your car Ruf converted. Not Ruf vin....but still very much a Ruf.

Comparing your SC to these cars are like comparing apples to oranges. The ad did state Ruf Conversions. If the car had only Ruf wheels and was trying to be passed off as a Ruf, I can understand your comparison but these cars got 90% of the Ruf treatment from their catalog. If you installed 90% of 930 parts into your SC and called it a 930 conversion, than I see no reason why it couldn't be called that.
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so the pieces that go from the rear fender to the rear bumper with the vents are those still available from RUF?
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so the pieces that go from the rear fender to the rear bumper with the vents are those still available from RUF?
Ken I'm not so sure that those are original Ruf items.
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ok thought it might be a good cold air intake spot for the turbo
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Once heard there's "one born every minute".

Neither of them are real Ruf's anymore than my 911SC with a 930 engine make a 930 Porsche.
Dare I say it, but to the purist RUF collector or affectionado only those built at the factory are real. But wait a moment, years ago i was at CS Motorsports and there were large boxes of RUF parts that arrived from RUF Germany. A few days later 2 guys from RUF Germany arrived and disassembled the car and rebuilt it with these parts. Only difference I can see is they were not put on in Germany. It was made up by the same crew of guys as if the car had been shipped back and forth. Also lots more can be done once here without the restrictive requirements on a imported new from Europe Porsche.
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nice cars. kinda makes me leary when i see 100 pics from 4 or 5 angles and they never really show you the entire car.
i would like to see under it too.

not a fan of that dealer. just another one that has really jacked the prices of 930's. yes i have mine and should be happy about that but i also know how frustrating it was shopping for over priced 930's
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These look to be nice cars. The conversions are well done. Please stop knocking this dealer. The cars are nice. Also these are used cars so there are going to be things that need attention. Again nice cars.

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Dare I say it, but to the purist RUF collector or affectionado only those built at the factory are real. But wait a moment, years ago i was at CS Motorsports and there were large boxes of RUF parts that arrived from RUF Germany. A few days later 2 guys from RUF Germany arrived and disassembled the car and rebuilt it with these parts. Only difference I can see is they were not put on in Germany. It was made up by the same crew of guys as if the car had been shipped back and forth. Also lots more can be done once here without the restrictive requirements on a imported new from Europe Porsche.
I wonder what the collective 'market' feels about the value of RUF converted 911s vs cars that were originally 930s and converted by RUF?
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ok thought it might be a good cold air intake spot for the turbo
Wouldn't the air instead get sucked out since those rear vents are in a low-pressure area?
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These are both real ruf conversions, you can contact ruf with the vin and they can confirm. A ruf authorized conversion is a ruf, paperwork and all.
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I have seen both these cars in person and there stunning especially the cab.
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Strange to me that the dealer has so many near duplicate exterior photos and NOT ONE of the engine.

That 6 speed is a rare find. I've yet to ever see one in a 930 let along drive one. Nice ratios:
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Wouldn't the air instead get sucked out since those rear vents are in a low-pressure area?
So is the engine compartment. I found them from better bodies. the drivers side one i could put a box on the back with a filter on the inside and a 4inch line would have about 6 inches to the turbo inlet. I'm in the middle of an efi conversion with a really big turbo. Looks preferable to running a 4 inch pipe to the top of the inside of the fender well then cutting a hole for it to go back into the engine compartment. When the turbo is spooled up the slightly lower pressure of that area of the car wouldn't make much difference.
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I just noticed 8 or 9 pics of engine bay on both cars.
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Strange to me that the dealer has so many near duplicate exterior photos and NOT ONE of the engine.

That 6 speed is a rare find. I've yet to ever see one in a 930 let along drive one. Nice ratios:
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Patrick motorsport had one for sale last year..iirc it was around $13-15k was the asking price RUF R50.50 6-Speed Transaxle By Patrick Motorsports Mid Engine Performance Specialists
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The cars are not Ruf vin but they are Ruf conversions done by Exclusive Motorcars (an authorize Ruf reseller back in the day). Realistically Ruf started as a tuner then he gained the mfr status. Both cars have plenty of high dollar Ruf parts, up to and including engine and tranny. If your were to ship your car to Ruf in Germany and he were to convert/tune it using his parts from his catalog, than I would consider your car Ruf converted. Not Ruf vin....but still very much a RUF.

Comparing your SC to these cars are like comparing apples to oranges. The ad did state Ruf Conversions. If the car had only Ruf wheels and was trying to be passed off as a Ruf, I can understand your comparison but these cars got 90% of the Ruf treatment from their catalog. If you installed 90% of 930 parts into your SC and called it a 930 conversion, than I see no reason why it couldn't be called that.
speednme1 is correct on all points Exclusive Motorcars was the importer/distributor in the US for years. There was then an outfit in Illinois I believe that either took over, ot handled all work on that side of the country.

And for the record, RUF also performed conversions on SC's & Carreras to include everything that was available for the 930's minus turbo related mods but including engine work. Hmmm, I think I have a few of those related goodies laying around from a totaled RUF car.



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Dare I say it, but to the purist RUF collector or affectionado only those built at the factory are real. But wait a moment, years ago i was at CS Motorsports and there were large boxes of RUF parts that arrived from RUF Germany. A few days later 2 guys from RUF Germany arrived and disassembled the car and rebuilt it with these parts. Only difference I can see is they were not put on in Germany. It was made up by the same crew of guys as if the car had been shipped back and forth. Also lots more can be done once here without the restrictive requirements on a imported new from Europe Porsche.
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I wonder what the collective 'market' feels about the value of RUF converted 911s vs cars that were originally 930s and converted by RUF?
Most who'd care are unaware that the majority of the earlier RUF cars are conversions regardless if done by an authorized distributor or by RUF in Germany. There were very few RUF Vin'd cars prior to 89
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