930 central locking only locking one door
 

Hello all, my 930 has started with a new fault now. A funny one on the key fob, it only locks the passenger door. The drivers door will not lock, and the door handle the when you insert the key the barrel just turns around.

Any ideas people?

Well no reply again where is everybody?

I had look inside, and found the fault it a plastic screw on ball fitting.
Over the years it has got worn and spilt at the side. This means the rod falls off and will not lock the door.

So its a cheap fix HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks for the update / find

I'm in same boat, tumbler's been spinning but still working for last year, until last week when just spins and no locking, and now tumbler pulled straight out

taking door card apart now, hoping to find similar remedy as you (cheap / easy!)

Keep me posted, someone said lever fits between field goal prongs make sure it fits in the middle.

On my one just one prong not sure how to make it work.

plastic rod on door locks. why cheap crap like that i dont know. i wired mine back on but have since ordered a new one, jsut waiting for it to fail again.

defffffffffffffffffffffffffffinitely not the plastic rods in my case here

pulled the panel, here's what I found floating about the bottom inner door sill:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Q...904_131338.jpg

while these innards resemble those in my cheapo Haynes 911 workshop manual (couldn't find reference in the 930WS manual I have on DVD?)... there appears to be more pieces than what is pictured for a 70-73

ugh - nooooooooo idea how to reassemble this mess w/o pulling the OTHER panel and inspecting a known good assembled mechanism - FUN!

anyone BTDT with this? Gooooooooooood tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimes... there is sooooooooooo much room up and in there to see / get hands / work / etc.... NOT.

The screw has come undone, which holds it to the barrel it self.
It has a spring return on the key you may need your car keys to hold the key parts together.

I can post a picture for you should you wish?

yes a picture would be quite helpful if you would - thanks much

yeah I'd say the screw came out alright... Loctite'ing that f'er 8-)

the key is needed to get the barrel in / out of the handle, I think that's about it

Paul, the piece below the tumbler is the spring return, but the piece at 3 o'clock looks like it broke off. I used rekey those at a friend's shop, but I haven't done one in a while so I'm a little foggy.

Take a look at this.
Pelican Technical Article: Door Handle Replacement - 911 (1965-89) - 930 Turbo (1975-89)

Hello, does the picture help or do you still need one from me?

good evening - sorry, been running around all weekend

the picture is somewhat helpful as I can sort of determine the orientation of the pin - but it is really too small / bad angle

might you be able to snap a better pic?

appreciate your efforts...

Paul, pages 217-222 show the door lock parts in order.

http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/usa/911_USA_87_89_KATALOG.pdf

PS: FU buttofcourse!!!

thanks for both the link and the FU!

however

that pic of course does not separate the pieces involved with the back of the tumbler... just a vague picture of the assembled bits

oy

How about this, ya' bishazzbish?!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/347343-door-handle-assembly.html

thanks fukko - that is semi-more-helpful, but it is still for earlier handles it appears.

ours have a 2-piece locking pin assembly which I need to figure out, but least this gives me some sort of more general idea than I had

any further insight here is appreciated... TIA

oh, and... Fukkimus Youimus, Douchimus Maximus!!

hi I have two broken plastic ball caps do you have a part num. thanks karl

Karl, Porsche doesn't sell the rod ends any more, instead they sell this (started with the 964 model but works on 930 models as well) plastic one piece rod. Part number straight out of the Porsche PET -

964-537-571-00-M100

Whopping $6.25 from Pelican.

Pelican Parts - European Automotive Parts and Accessories - Porsche • BMW • Mercedes • Volkswagen • Audi • Saab • Volvo • MINI

Yes found that out myself as I need one had to buy the 964 all in one part as above.

Is the picture still needed?

The part @ 3 oclock in Krasuskyp's #6 picture appears to be the center pivot plug from the window register arms. Very common for replacers to leave that piece in the bottom of the door when they replace the broken window register.

Gary

SEE YA - yes, please - thanks. I'd replied that earlier to you, if you have a chance to post one that'd be great as anything at this point would be helpful!

Gary - HUGE THANKS for confirming that piece for me... that was really throwing a curve into this process.

I ASSume the window wouldn't work if that piece HAD come from my current regulator? Works fine, so fingers crossed.

And now my sunroof went from not opening quite all the way to just making a sound but no movement... awesome.

knowing ^that^ piece is not part of the equation I dove further in

got the handle off, took opportunity to wax the finger box (errrrrrrr?) since it was exposed and clean up the gaskets nicelike

Failure mode appears the screw which retains this whole mess to the back of the tumbler loosened then eventually pulled the top few threads out. I had to use a longer slightly thicker thread to get it to hold, but all's good there.

once handle's off, latch mechanism reassembly would seem to only go one way as most of it is keyed and obvious, with exception of how 'this' is clocked:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...911_110006.jpg

Anyone got a pic of how the clocking of those 2 zinc coated arm pieces are supposed to fit together? The bottom one (spring retainer) can only go one way as the spring ears once inserted then key into the plastic tumbler barrel bore. But the top zinc arm is 'geared' with the bottom one, at their midpoint where that little boss is seen. Can clock the arm more CCW a couple mm's...

more pics of this:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-o...911_110115.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H...911_110235.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i...911_110420.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1...911_110435.jpg

I thought I had it right, but turning the key only unlocks that door (manually), once that lock is up the passenger one trips open... but then the key does not engage anything from there... no lock no unlock (until you lock the car again from other side and repeat process.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q...911_124643.jpg

So my question is - how is this area supposed to interact? Meaning, the tumbler's lock 'arm' (lever on the left in ^pic^) to the door lock's lock 'arm' (appears with grey coated tip on right in ^pic^).

When you turn the key CCW to unlock, the left lever comes down and interacts with the grey tipped lever on the right.

Thoughts?

Will post picture on Sunday. I am away till then.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410702197.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410702232.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410702268.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410702347.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410702391.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410702438.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410702666.jpg

The first one is before, I move the white wire across to its right location down the door.
I hope this help need anything else let me know.

Also thing to remember, the drivers door will not lock the door it just unlocks it. A feature to stop people locking themselves out of the car.

Do you need anymore help?

yes, unfortunately I very much still need help

thanks for the pictures, the angle of the latch ones makes it hard to tell the clocking

someone on the 911 board posted this one which is helpful:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1410929879.jpg

it looks like mine is on right, but maybe I'm not clocked enough toward the latch?

anyone?

btw, the driver's key does lock the door as well as unlock... just not while the door is open - I think that's what you meant 8-)

Let me know what else you need?

thanks

would you mind measuring the distance between the handle's swing arm (pin) and the latches swing arm?

that would be most helpful!

I can do that but not till Sunday is that ok?

sure thanks

Its about three inches the gap.

thanks again

No worries, need anything else let me know?