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First Turbo In The U.S.?

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In July 1975 I shot this photo of my pal Fred Veitch with his brand-new Turbo in front of a loan office in Denver. We shot the car there as a gag because it cost so much at the time. Fred always said this was one of the first two Turbos imported into the US. It was a Euro model, silver, and is still owned by a Porsche enthusiast in Colorado Springs. Does anyone know of a Turbo that was in the US any earlier? Does anyone know where the other '75 Euro Turbo is?



The loan office was near 3rd and Broadway, immediately north of Grady Clay's Porsche shop, Rennenhaus. The photo ran on the cover of the newsletter of the Rocky Mountain Region, PCA. Fred bought the car through Vasek Polak and Duane Mentzer at Alpine Porsche-Audi in Colorado Springs, where he lived. It arrived in Colorado that July, and Fred drove it to the Seattle Parade that summer, where he showed it in the concours. The "ZN" license plate signifies Hinsdale County, where Fred registered it because that county then had no smog testing requirements. And, of course, we all had CB radios back then...

I keep digging through my old black-and-white prints from 40 years ago, finding stuff like this!

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Great photo Frank!

Here’s a color photo taken at the Seattle parade just a few weeks later with you and Fred detailing the engine. It’s now equipped with an Eagle County Sheriff Posse license plate topper and Alpine Porsche + Audi plate frame.

Fred told me the other '75 Turbo he saw at Vasek Polak was black. The '75 Turbos came to Vasek through Pon's in the Netherlands.


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Looks like I'm pulling a dead trout out of the engine compartment. The Eagle County Sheriff's Posse topper came from Fred's brother-in-law, Hal Shaw, who lived in Vail and raced an RSR in the Trans-Am series. Sadly, he died in a road accident a few years later, or he would be much better know as a racer today. Sadly, my hair is now shorter and grayer than the above. Anyway, I drove the Turbo and was blown away by the straight-line performance (My Porsche at the time was a 2.2 911E) but was too scared to get on it in a corner. Hey, It was Fred's car! Incidentally, Fred won his class in 2014 at the Pikes Peak Hill Climb in a Turbo (see recent Panorama issue).

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Frank, your 3-page article, “The Ultimate 911” in the August 1975 RMR newsletter nicely captures the character of the 930 Turbo. Here’s your article intro – I love the Triumph and the Cobra passages.

“You’re sitting pretty in a rather jazzy looking 911 at a traffic light. Its idle is low, smooth, and subdued. A totally civilized automobile. The air conditioning wafts cool air around the black all-leather interior. With sunroof and electric windows sealed, you hardly notice the 650 Triumph come up alongside, its characteristic staccato “English vertical twin” exhaust throb barely cracking the pristine Porsche’s shell of sophisticated dignity. As you slip the gear lever forward into first, the light turns green and, amidst a cacophony of noise, the Triumph turns gone. You ease out the clutch and simultaneously squeeze the accelerator downwards. The car moves forward. Quickly. More quickly than any stock 911 should. The RPM climb as a smooth surge of power keeps you just behind the bike. Then, as the tachometer reaches about 3800 RPM, a giant hand suddenly descends from Heaven and flicks the Porsche ahead, pressing you back into your seat. At 6800 you shift into second and do it all again. Very soon you are past the astonished Trumpet rider and appreciating that special rush that until now only a Cobra driver has experienced. Zero to sixty in under 5 seconds…in the new Turbo Porsche.”
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Ah nostalgia! We long for finer days of men and their cars. Good reading.
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Fred Veitch? Same Fred V that's had/has a few very trick 356s ?
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Special Wishes CB antenna? Absolutely screams 1975!
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Fred Veitch? Same Fred V that's had/has a few very trick 356s ?
Yep, there's only one!

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Very cool picture front of the LOAN.
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Nice piece of history.
In the last year or two there was an article claiming a green car was the first US turbo, though they may have meant officially imported. I'll see if I can dig it up. I have a hard copy here somewhere.
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Special Wishes CB antenna? Absolutely screams 1975!
Pearce-Simpson 23 Channel - probably removed in the early-1980s but the aluminum bumper still has plastic cap from the original CB antenna installation.

When U.S. preproduction Turbo Carrera (9306800011) appeared in the August 1976 Playboy magazine, it had a similar CB install but the antenna was mounted on the tail. It also had a Super Snooper radar detector mounted in the front window.




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Nice piece of history.
In the last year or two there was an article claiming a green car was the first US turbo, though they may have meant officially imported. I'll see if I can dig it up. I have a hard copy here somewhere.
It was Oak Green Metallic and one of the first of 4 '76 US production cars. There was an article about it in Excellence in 2009. It stands out to me because my car is Oak Green Metallic and the issue was released a week or 2 after I bought my car.
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It was Oak Green Metallic and one of the first of 4 '76 US production cars. There was an article about it in Excellence in 2009. It stands out to me because my car is Oak Green Metallic and the issue was released a week or 2 after I bought my car.
That's U.S. '76 #0014.

U.S. #0011 was featured in the Sept 2012 Excellence Magazine and was in period issues of Playboy/R&T/Car & Driver/Motor Trend/Hot VWs/etc., #0011 is registered in Denver, CO.

U.S. #0012 was stolen from the R&T parking lot in LA and has not surfaced to this day.

U.S. #0013???

Magnus Walker's #0015 was the first true U.S. production turbo. '76 Turbo Carreras #0011 - #0014 were preproduction cars (8/75 production and VIN decals) and had euro tail markers on the rear bumper and were in the U.S. for emission and road testing.
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Yep, there's only one!
Ok, I thought so. Ol' Fred has had some interesting toys.. nice guy too!

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Ok, I thought so. Ol' Fred has had some interesting toys.. nice guy too!

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Reviving this thread.
I owned the black turbo that was one of the two turbo's brought in by Vesek Polak. I owned it from approx. 1995 to 1990. When I bought it it had a euro 1983 motor that had considerable HP mods.
I could post more info if anyone was interested. At that time Car history wasn't important so I never had much background on the car.
The present owner of this car has contacted me. He is doing a complete restoration. If anyone has information on this car, please PM me.
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Correction: 1995 to 1990.
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