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964 IC pics wanted

Anyone got a 964 IC conversion in their 930. I'm trying to fit one and struggling with the mounts and plumbing. I am fitting it direct to the original intake manifold. Chris at Turbokraft sent me pretty well everything I need, I think. But some pics would help if anyone has some . looks like I need to change my up-pipe and i'm struggling for places to locate some mounts.
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Search under Sandman. Jeff posted a great thread that helped when I was running a C2 intercooler
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Will do - thanks. tried searching under the obvious words, but didn't pull that one up.
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Fabricating a C2 Turbo to intercooler pipe
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You need two of these black forks and one long hex base like in the picture:

Part numbers are 930-110-223-02 (support, two required), 930-113-430-00 (rubber isolators, four required) 930-110-232-00 (spacer sleeve, two required) and 930-110-722-00 (hex base, called a "screw bolt"one required).
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Thanks Paul - Chris sent me those bits, and everything else - except the Turbo/IC pipe seems to have gone missing. So I'm down to looking for options now. Unfortunately Say-642, the pics in the link you sent me don't come up. Sound slike they would have been useful - but all I get is a bunch of little icons instead of pics.
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My car had a b&b long neck which is kinda like the 964 intercooler. I used the 964 hose.
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Excellent link Mussberger.
Many thanks - has the pics I need and Chris is going to dispatch the bit I need.
Xmas is coming.
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OK guys, Xmas over, back on the job - looks like it is going to fit reasonably well.
But from the link/pics, I can't figure a few things. Where does the hose from the BOV go - it looks like it is heading to the TB - but which port?
I have a skinny tube supplied with a T piece - does this connect with the BOV tube also?
What do I do with the Y tube on the intake manifold - looks from the link pics that one side of the Y is capped. Where does the other go? - into the IC?
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Where does the hose from the BOV go - it looks like it is heading to the TB - but which port?
I have a skinny tube supplied with a T piece - does this connect with the BOV tube also?
What do I do with the Y tube on the intake manifold - looks from the link pics that one side of the Y is capped. Where does the other go? - into the IC?
The BOV has to be connected to the port below the TB on the butterfly since you are looking for a vacuum signal. The other end of the T hooks to the can valve that has to open and close to direct the air from the BOV into the intake.
The open port on the Y gets the exit line from the can valve. That's where the air that the BOV is expelling goes.
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Here's the valve I'm referring to. Did Chris give you one?
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OK, thanks 911 Nut. I got one of those valves from my 930 set up. Looks like I have to plumb it in. I'd call it a Decel valve? So the top outlet of the Y in the manifold will hook into the 'Decel' valve, same as old set up. I have a bottom U hose on the Y looking for a home. It used to go to what I would call the shuttle or slide valve in the old discarded manifold housing. Where do I hook that? I still then have a spare port on the Decel valve - that used to hook into the old discarded manifold - where do I put it now?
Does it matter which TB port the skinny BOV T gets hooked into - either the dizzy vac line or the WUR port side of the TB?
So many questions. because I got so many hoses/holes to find a home for. :-)
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I'm thinking the lower outlet hose from the Y tube (which used to go to the discarded slide valve) needs to be blanked off, and the other hose on the decel valve needs to go into the IC?
In the parts pic posted by 911 nut, #44 looks like a blanking cap, #42 looks like my original hose on the Y tube, and I'm guessing #40 looks like a new hose I need to go into the IC from the decal valve?
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I'm thinking the lower outlet hose from the Y tube (which used to go to the discarded slide valve) needs to be blanked off, and the other hose on the decel valve needs to go into the IC?
Yes, the lower port is capped on my car.
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thanks Paul. So where does the outlet of the decal valve head to (hose #40) - into your IC thru the large port on the side? (by the boost gauge fitting).
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So where does the outlet of the decal valve head to (hose #40) - into your IC thru the large port on the side? (by the boost gauge fitting).
Alan
Yes.
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So the last bit to figure out is where to tee the BOV line into. It has to be one of the lines off the TB. Does it make any difference which one - ie the 'front' side facing the driver - which has the WUR line or the 'rear' side which has the dizzy and decal valve line. Can I Tee into any of these?
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Almost there.
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So the last bit to figure out is where to tee the BOV line into. It has to be one of the lines off the TB. Does it make any difference which one - ie the 'front' side facing the driver - which has the WUR line or the 'rear' side which has the dizzy and decal valve line. Can I Tee into any of these?
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You want it hooked up to a port that sees both vacuum and boost, which means it has to be downstream of the butterfly. I would pick the forward facing one, as I believe it is downstream of the butterfly.

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