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Chris,
Thanks for the input. I am going to copy and paste that over to my clutch thread "Definitive statement on 930 clutch selection".

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Yup, Chris has it correct. I bought the strongest set from https://www.ccc-motorsport.de/ and he sent the set you descriped earlier so even clutch shops have it wrong! Now I'm fighting with paypal as the seller claims he's right, DUH.

Here is a email from a Sachs performance tech that had to cut in when I guestioned another tech claiming the same bullsh... about how they are the same.

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The pressure plate with the number 88 3089 999 574 is the strong type of this two plates. This clutch compared with clutch 88 3082 999 594 is having a different adjustment dimension. Therefore you have to use a clutch disc who starts with the numbers 88 186… for this pressure plate.

That’s the reason why there is a note in the description for the pressure plate.



The part number 88 3082 999 594 is the pressure plate with a lower clamp load. You have to use this clutch with the Sachs clutch disc 1861 568 331 .



The reason why we have two different clutches in our program is, that the original Sachs PP 3082 073 131 is not available anymore.



So if your car has no performance increase, you have to use the combination 88 3082 999 594 / 1861 568 331 .

If your car has a performance increase, you have to use the combination 88 3083 999 574 / 88 186. … .
IN the email there were pics of the catalog with "ONLY WITH 615" text that I had already told to the seller but he was all set to not listen to me anyway.
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Ok, all case fasteners are out, including the hidden nut and washer down next to the timing chain, and the 3 back where the flywheel would hide them. (Flywheel is off obviously)
Tried splitting the case and got it to begin separating at the crank pulley but it does not want to budge back at the flywheel end of the case.

Any suggestions?
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Have you tried tapping the crank pulley end back together and then tapping the flywheel end apart. The case could be binding due to crank pulley end separated.

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It was just really tight on the studs. Bearings look virtually perfect.
How to have fun and be terrified all at the same time!!!

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How to have fun and be terrified all at the same time!!!
I thought that was how you were always supposed to do it!
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Cleaned everything in the solvent tank. Crank is boxed up in an old ammo crate I had laying around.





Took the oil pump to bits. It looks really nice inside. Going to send the gears out to get REM super finished.
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When taking your oil pump to bits, mark the location and CLOCKING of each gear to each other gear.

I have now been schooled by the authority on this that once worn in to each other there may be binding issues when I go to put this back together. This was my mistake. I may be able to recover from this without buying a new oil pump, I hope so as this one looked nearly perfect inside.

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Cleaned all the case through bolts. They seem to have a very rough machined finish on the shank. I wrapped threads with tape, chucked them in the drill press, and used a Scotchbrite pad to clean them up.


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Machinist just called, case, crank, rods and pistons are all very good. Cylinders on the other hand not so good, they are not round and have too much taper. I seem to remember the 3.2 cylinders can be bored out to 97mm and plated to match the pistons. Does anyone have a set of 3.2 cylinders they want to sell?

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Someone just posted some p&c’s on the classifieds
Turbo jugs and pistons.
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I can get my current cylinders stripped, honed round, plated, and finish honed to size for about $1300 from millennium. Would prefer to have full fins like the 95mm cylinders, but this build is not on an unlimited budget.
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It's wild to think I commented on this thread years back.

Time flies, project looks good and coming along!

Lot's of knowledge, keep up the good work.
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PM sent with my contact info, I have a New set of 3.3 P&C's I no longer need. But I
do need my factory WasteGate rebuilt maybe we can workout a deal?
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While waiting on engine machine work, there is still much to be done. Cleaning the intake today. Some white stains on the anodized finish. Planning to just get it as clean as I can and paint and bake with VHT satin black brake caliper paint

May soda blast a bit.



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Intake manifold was really faded and tired after cleaning, so it's now got a thin coat of baked on satin black VHT.













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