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reclino 01-27-2015 10:49 AM

It is an internally regulated alternator. The Valeo regulator is $65 the Huco runs about $30. But my past experience with Bosch voltage regulators and the location of this one being so hard to get to if and when it needs to be replaced. Why not spend the few extra bucks and put one like this external.
Voltage Regulator V1200

voitureltd 01-27-2015 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by willtel (Post 8458192)
Since everyone wants to know but is apparently too polite to ask...

What did you pay for it?

Good laugh, that's great.

heliolps2 01-27-2015 01:03 PM

Also check if the cables at the starter are tight , The power from battery goes the starter to the alternator and back , i replaced three alternators and regulators thinking they were the problem, I would start with a fresh Battery and make sure all connections are nice and tight , Grounds starter cables and so on,

Good luck

reclino 01-27-2015 01:36 PM

I discussed price with the owner, he had know idea the current value of the car. I gave him a few days to look up the car value, and come up with a number. He named his price, I tried to negotiate down from that number. He didn't want to budge and I paid his price. I will not be further discussing the price I paid, but I do not feel like I took advantage of him.
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IMR-Merlin 01-27-2015 01:47 PM

If he gave you a number and you paid that number. Then you didn't take advantage of him.

kenikh 01-27-2015 01:48 PM

Awesome

Miguel Antonett 01-27-2015 01:51 PM

I don't believe you can find those two separate anymore - really don't want them - alternators nowadays come with the regulator within... the way to go.

BTW, amazing how that IC rubber seal is still together at the four corners... I buy it from you, but don't take advantage of me now - kidding.

redturbo911 01-27-2015 01:58 PM

True
 
+1 agreed


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Originally Posted by IMR-Merlin (Post 8458677)
If he gave you a number and you paid that number. Then you didn't take advantage of him.


Roby466 01-27-2015 02:20 PM

Very nice! I can't wait to see where this is going. Looks like a great car has been saved! Keep us informed of the progress.

unclebilly 01-27-2015 02:56 PM

There are some things you may or may not know about these cars... I am assuming this is your first 911 / 930.

Rule number 1. These are dry sump. Don't fill up the oil based on the dip stick level before you start it. Change the oil and put in 10 quarts and then check it warm. If you top up the sump with it cold, you will have a big mess to deal with.

Tt surgeon 01-27-2015 02:58 PM

+1, big time!

Ferraripete 01-27-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by reclino (Post 8457970)
Prior to the sale I suspected I had found a gem in the rough. The car had 68,000 miles on the clock. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1422371627.jpg
The owner said he bought it in 1987 from the dealer in Charlotte, North Carolina. When I pulled the vehicle history report it indicated that there was only one owner, the dealer had put 7000 miles on it between 1986 and 1987. So I am now the second owner.

if purchased new in charlotte, it would have been sold by Barrier & Beck Porsche. it may have been Skipper Beck's personal car. Skip passed away too young. He loved his turbos!!

reclino 01-27-2015 03:57 PM

Beck
 
The license plate frame says Beck-Hendrick. I am new to the 930 but not new to cars and things mechanical. I appreciate and welcome all the advice. I will be dropping the engine out next to get a good look at it. I assume that I will at least pull the heads and do an inspection of everything. I am very concerned with the condition of the head studs, if the Dilvar has not yet died from stress corrosion cracking I fear it soon will. Sitting in the humid air of Eastern North Carolina for 9 years will do some nasty things to unprotected metal. Can anyone determine if the head studs are original from the picture of topside of engine? I thought the Dilvar studs were bigger around than the steel ones, and to my eye the head studs all look intact and not corroded.
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unclebilly 01-27-2015 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by reclino (Post 8458883)
The license plate frame says Beck-Hendrick. I am new to the 930 but not new to cars and things mechanical. I appreciate and welcome all the advice. I will be dropping the engine out next to get a good look at it. I assume that I will at least pull the heads and do an inspection of everything. I am very concerned with the condition of the head studs, if the Dilvar has not yet died from stress corrosion cracking I fear it soon will. Sitting in the humid air of Eastern North Carolina for 9 years will do some nasty things to unprotected metal. Can anyone determine if the head studs are original from the picture of topside of engine? I thought the Dilvar studs were bigger around than the steel ones, and to my eye the head studs all look intact and not corroded.
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Those studs look OK to me. Seriously think about pulling off the heads - this is not a simple afternoon job on these engines - if you do go down this path, get Wayne Dempsey's book on rebuilding these engines.

You can retorque the head studs with the valve covers off. Honestly, I don't know if those head studs would be worse off if they were heat cycled regularly over the past 9 years as opposed to sitting for 9 years.

I am not questioning your mechanical aptitude or experience - I thought I knew all this stuff too until I rebuilt my first 911 engine... the dilivar head studs look like the lower ones on my engine.

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kenikh 01-27-2015 05:30 PM

In a similar circumstance I left mine alone on the advice of my mechanic.

Ronnie's.930 01-27-2015 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reclino (Post 8458883)
Can anyone determine if the head studs are original from the picture of topside of engine? I thought the Dilvar studs were bigger around than the steel ones, and to my eye the head studs all look intact and not corroded.

The original dilivar head studs on your year of Turbo are painted black (on some other 911 models & years they are goldish in color), so based on your picture, I would say those are the originals.

You are probably aware of this, but if not, all of the head studs on the turbo engines are dilivar (top and bottom), and in the opinions and experience of many here and in the 911 forum, a snap just waiting to happen.

kenikh 01-27-2015 05:40 PM

Maybe he's lucky, but my mechanic said he's never had a dilavar stud let go on a 930 or 935 in 40+ years. I was going to go Supertec and he talked me out of it.

Ronnie's.930 01-27-2015 05:58 PM

^^^ Well that's a first for me, as I have never heard of an experienced mechanic suggesting to re-use, or buy new, dilivar studs (other than the 993TT, all-thread variety) - interesting.

CBRacerX 01-27-2015 06:02 PM

Great find! Replace the studs, not worth the risk and if you already have the heads off it is easy. Unless they snap being removed. If I was you, I would split the case and inspect everything, clean the crank oil passages etc then reseal as in a rebuild. Have fun.


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kenikh 01-27-2015 06:03 PM

Came as a surprise to me given prevailing wisdom here. He knows his stuff. I've been with him for a decade and in that time a) he's never steered me wrong b) I've seen more 935s and 962s in that shop (amongst other equally interesting cars) than I can shake a stick at. He's been at it since '72, so it's on his side. Of course if I pop a head stud during test pulls... ��


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