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0-60mph in less than 4 seconds? I wish.
I hope you're wishing that for your car and not questioning this one. This one is certainly capable of those figures. Raise the boost a little and it'll do it faster even.
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A couple of photos of the interior (note not original radio!)
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Beautiful car. Read the article in Classic Car magazine. Great coverage. Congrats!

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Old 07-25-2015, 04:03 AM
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0-60 in 4secs with 389 bhp is very doable. Ive done 3.8 on a g.tec accelerometer to 60 on to 100 in 7.2 and 130mph in 11.3 albeit 450 bhp atw...
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My car has similar mods, which are pretty much the bare minimum amongst people on this forum. I know that with the lag issues, gearing, etc., it would some serious driveline abuse to get 4 second 0-60 times, let alone sub 4 times. If you have to also factor in unsustainable boost levels to get there, no thanks.
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Great car, does anyone have a link to the article?

Nick I like the seats!
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Thanks for all your interest in my car - it is appreciated.

I would not want to get too bogged down with 0 to 60 times although it was tested at supposedly 3.9 something - also I am not sure what the exact boost was at that time + I think these times are very much dependent on ambient temp, air density and the weight of the car (i.e. power to weight ratio). I used to race a Caterham 7 with around 235 bhp and weighing 440 kg - that recorded 0 to 60 in 2.9 secs. I agree you have to be a bit brutal but thats the game you have to play I guess.

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Welcome Nick...that is a sharp looking car. The Kremer stuff is so cool!
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Another pic from Classic Cars UK


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Well,under 4 seconds with 345 rears and around 2600lbs and 4:10 R&P. Now I know why it needed 2nd gear syncros at 9K miles. The 2nd owner ( owned Popeye's Chicken ) did a few burnouts for the neighbor kids ( my son's friend was his neighbor) once in awhile. It also was tested with the 9.7 R & P for top top speed but still has the 4:10 R&P which is more suitable for USA current hwy limits. Since Kremer tested it when new in 84, probably with open down pipe like yours still has, as the required restrictive US emission exhaust system was changed out. Maybe still under 4 seconds but I'll never try to find out..
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Wow thats a great spec! - I can't match Mario Andretti!

However, there would seem to be some similarities -
K27, 800 cu inch Intercooler, cams (although maybe a different spec?), 4.10 diff ratio, front oil coolers (says mine is a 934 though?), Special exhaust 934 type, Bilstien (yellow) dampers, larger anti roll bars + changes to torsion bars (not sure what?), a special welded in strut brace + the front skirt and rear engine lid. The wheel equipment is 16 x 9 rears and 16 x 8 fronts with N3 rated Bridgstone SO2 225/50 -ZR16's and 205/55 -ZR16's (which seem to suit the car well).

I can also relate to your transmission issues.
When I purchased the car both 1st and 2nd gear syncros were shot, and the clutch and LSD were worn badly. However, following a specialist rebuild every thing seems to work well now although the 915 derived gearbox is a bit slow with a long travel (may fit a short shift kit - if anybody has experience of this let me know).

I have been back to Kremer but its no longer the same company. Apparently they only kept file details for 10 years for 'home' modified cars but still have details for export models. However, Achim Stroth, the ex race director for Kremer in the early days has been most helpful to me.

It would be great to see some photos of your car Anthony - Im not sure how many genuine 78/79 Kremer modified 930's there are around now? According to Achim, they also supplied some kits of parts that were then fitted by dealers both in Germany and for export but again the records at Kremer are very sketchy.
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My 930 came w/ Group B cams when I bought it about 14 years ago. Also came with 345/35/15 rear tires, 285/45/15 fronts, rolled fenders, k27, Garretson I/C, and all of the other things ANDIAL typically would do. Other than cosmetic differences, I strongly suspect that all of the 80's tuners were basically doing the same mods.

I switched out the 15" rims and the cams. I dug the top end on the Group B's, but the SC's I swapped in suit me better.
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That car is so cool. Must be a blast to drive. Thanks Nick
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I can also relate to your transmission issues.
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I have been back to Kremer but its no longer the same company. Apparently they only kept file details for 10 years for 'home' modified cars but still have details for export models.

It would be great to see some photos of your car Anthony - Im not sure how many genuine 78/79 Kremer modified 930's there are around now? records at Kremer are very sketchy.
Answers in order,
My trans is the 4 speed so just 2nd gear syncro was worn ( I had it replaced around 9000 miles) probably due to 0-60 type of use by previous owner(s).

My build info is from 13 years ago when both Erwin and Manfred were available and were ordered by the second owners Insurance carrier to verify authenticity to evaluate insurable coverage.

Mine is a 84 so is a later body spec than yours and was built when Mario and Michael were driving Porsche race cars ( 956 for Mario in 1983) built by Kremer. Possibly that is why records were available for mine as I also heard most records for other than the race models were sketchy.

You have a spectacular example ( also great color ) of a early 930 by Kremer. When was yours built by them?
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Since you requested here are a few photos from when at a PCA concours a few years ago.



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Hi guys

I thought you maybe interested in my rather rare 1978/79 Porsche Kremer 930.

This car was originally purchased in Germany and subsequently taken to Kremer racing for modification.
Nice car Nick!
I have a good friend that has one similar to this in Guards Red w/Ruf wheel. He also has a Kremer 935 style as well. Love the details of these cars, and excellent in Petrol Blue.

If I can find pics of his I will post, although I will see him and takes some at the end of next month as he has decided to host a Porsche BBQ.

Thx for posting!
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Thanks for the photos of your fabulous car Anthony - it looks like it just rolled out of the showroom - and with that history - brilliant!

Mine was purchased as a standard 930 from Porsche in Jan 1979 (hence 1978 model), then in 1979 taken to Kremer and modified. According to Achim, Kremer carried out modifications to suit each customer unlike RUF who tended to build to a particular specification. I guess that what makes each Kremer sort of unique.

Look forward to seeing some photos of other Kremer road cars - I wonder how many there are?
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0-60mph in less than 4 seconds? I wish.
I don't see an issue with this being a sub 4 second car. Limiting factors would be tire hook up.

If you were to add a little electronics to the car to get pre-boost, this would be a 3.5 second 0-60 car all day.

I just wouldn't want to do launches all day with it. These cars are NOT drag cars, but very capable in the right hands to lay down some good 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

What's a stock 930 of the dame year? 5 second 0-60? A few mods and better turbo, gets those times to change real fast.

My 0-60 times are higher because I am in a G50 car, but IIRC the 930 can hit 60 at the end of first.
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Interesting point - I assume electronics would spool-up the turbo - are there kits available?

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Another photo - I keep finding them



Are there any other 930 Kremer's out there?
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