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Even trade, 92 965 for my 97 993 Cab... Hmmmm

looking for some input

My brother has a 92 965 blk/blk that he doesn't drive much, and he really likes likes my 993 Cab blk/blk/tan very clean, here's the catch, his 965 has 93 964 3.6 NA motor, he had bought the 965 with out a motor and trans, the chassis has 68k on it and its good shape as far as the body goes, I was thinking of turning it into a 3.8 RSR, whats your thoughts




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Go for it. Except I'd source a 3.6 turbo engine if it is indeed a "965"
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3.8 RSR sounds awesome. That is by far the coolest 964 based car out there. Coupes are cooler by 'verts anyway, so yeah.

Except your bro will have a true matching-numbers car and you'll have a very cool project. I'm not one for buying cars and keeping them nice "for the next owner", but at the prices our cars are trading these days, the thought is worth a consideration, right?
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Put a turbo motor/trans back in that car and its a $200,000 car...

Start checking salvage yards...
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Its a real 965.. and I diffidently have tons of experience with turbo motors, and I know of a 965 motor for sale, but at $25 grand, thats alot of money,
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It all depends, the Turbo would be great but be prepare to shell out some high dollars for the correct 3.3 Turbo engine and trans. If you're enjoying your 993 Cab, you may want to pass....now with that said. You could build one sick Turbo without worrying about value. Heck a nice efi twin turbo set up should be part of the recipe. Better yet install a 993TT engine and trans. The possibilities are endless. Given the history of your last car...you my friend have the vision
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if I was to go the RSR direction , here's some inspirations

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I dont think must people care if there is a matching number engine or trans, whats your thoughts ?
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For a collector I think matching numbers would matter but for an enthusiast...it should not matter. My 930 does not have matching engine (not sure what happened to the original but mine has 91/92 930 engine) so I may be biased! Mismatching engine did not bother me when I was buying my car.

Neat idea to go with RSR replica.
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Matching numbers matter for someone buying it as a fun investment.

But, RSR 3.8 (turbo) all the way!!! Do it dude, it'll look awesome, especially with a turbo secret under the decklid, just like Cobalt's car featured here not long ago.

Also, you might want to grab a set of rear control arms from a NA 964 to get the ultra deep wheels to fit.

I saw this beast at Road America last year.

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I wouldn't even blink at that offer, the 965 would be in my driveway!
Trade cars and start looking for the correct drive train while you enjoy the 965/3.6NA. The 3.6L engine is a great driver. Best of both worlds you will have!
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I'd put a Carrera 3.2 in there with modern aftermarket EFI and enjoy the high flowing cams, heads, and intake over the 965 with the robustness of the turbo engines.

Best of all worlds!

Later find a good 965 engine and hold for future.......if one can afford.
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Helio - shoot me a PM with your email address. I know someone in a similar situation as you but the complete opposite chassis/drivetrain! He is looking for a similar solution. I could put you guys in touch.
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Patina , I just Sent you a PM , I love this forum , great looking
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Garren , that's what I was thinking, 964 trading arms for sure, but I would save the turbo ones , I also heard that Porsche didn't put serial numbers on there engines, as long I found the right year of engine ?
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Swap. And turbo the 3.6 in there now.
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^this^ and agreed with Brian - without even blinking.

Do it before he changes his mind lol.

I loved my 993cab, fantastic driver... but this is a no brainer IMO.

Good luck, report back. And when you DO do it... really looking forward to that build thread considering yer last creation, always dug that...
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My brother is all in for the deal, He lives in AZ and live in DC , road trip planned in the spring, Im gonna have Chris at TurboKraft take a look at it first before the drive across the country, most likely to install a CIS turbo motor in her
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if it's not going to be the original matching numbers motor going in, why not keep the 3.6 and turbo that?
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^^^This.
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