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Supercharging a 2.7
I'm starting to think about the motor. I have a '76 2.7, if I keep it I would like to put a supercharger on it in addition to EFI and a good ESM, etc. Anyone seen a supercharged 2.7 before? How well do they hold up after the usual problem areas are addressed?
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Been a while, but yes. There arent any readily available kits, so youd better be good at fabricating. A Buick roots style SC is a good choice to wake that 2.7 up down low and keep the power in the safe band. You really dont want to exceed 300HP on a mag case. You'd like see 250 HP with the aforementioned SC.
EFI and ECU control of the compressor clutch will be critical in making a motor that runs well and runs reliably. Good luck!
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My target was for right around 300 hp. I can build a bracket or two and handle a serpentine belt setup, but casting or even welding a new intake might be beyond me. I'd also be running a meth/wter injection system fulltime so that may complicate the ducting but will definitely keep the detonation and heat at bay. Possibly a twin-plug thing too but only for keeping temps down.
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Twin plug is a given.
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Thought as much. Block off the distributor and go with all-electronic timing? A twin-plug distributor runs as much as a good ECU does these days!
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^ truth
I run crankfire and coilpacks.
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I like the coilpack idea. Probably going to use this compressor:
https://whipplesuperchargers.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=336 Seems like the smallest package and most efficient. Last edited by Mick_D; 04-22-2016 at 01:31 PM.. |
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Thought about a Paxton but a centrifugal SC doesn't make sense to me here performance-wise.
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For the 300 hp target, the centrifugal is a perfect fit. Very easy on the gearbox too. People are often so concerned with HP that they forget about the problems the extra HP brings. For a relatively modest goal of 300 HP, (which equates to low boost) I really dont see the need for the added expense of twin plugs. I ran a Paxton unit behind my 3.2 for years and it was awesome. Finally went turbo, which is a game changer, but as I said it comes with additional issues. Finally got the car tuned right after chasing down the appropriate MAF but still need to be careful with the 915 gearbox. I've run 8 to 10 psi BTW, single plug no problem.
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My thought on the twin plug was that it runs cooler . I also thought that a Centrifugal compressor would have some of the same lag issues of a turbo. It would definitely be easier and cheaper to engineer...
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got told a centrifugal charger, when sized correctly, basically matches your N/A power curve.. there's just.. more of it..
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My experience with v8 motors is that roots type blowers spread the boost more evenly over the power curve than centrifugal blowers do.
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Far from an expert, but I would go for a centrifugal style as well. If not for performance characteristics, then for pwr delivery. I think the 2.7 engine and 915 would prefer cent. Tq delivery over roots or twinscrew.
Search for DPHans to see what turbo pwr he gets out of a 2.7
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clutch-monkey you are absolutely correct. Just made the 3.2 feel like a 3.8. As far as lag goes there is none because its still a normal compression 3.2. Lag is almost a non issue nowadays anyway. When people mention lag they are probably thinking about the early 930's with ridiculously low compression. (which is what caused the lag)
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