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Any chance I can use stock oil temp/oil pressure sensor for ms3 input?

I can find linear sensors for about 27usd shipped so its not that bad but stock would look kind of well stock.

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How about logging or input stock oil pressure for limp mode/kill switch?

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I don't believe you can use the stock one.
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Some people on the tehcnical forum have tried to measure the output but the results vary ALOT. There are some VDO specs though like

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The VDO sender is supposed to be 10-180 ohms for a 0-5 BAR gauge. The gauge should read 1 bar at 29.6 ohms and zero bar at 10 ohms
One guy measured his
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Oil pressure (indicated gauge psi vs input resistance):
140 psi = 182 ohms
100 psi = 145 ohms
60 psi = 94 ohms
20 psi = 46 ohms
0 psi = 17 ohms
Other guy measured a new sensor
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0 bar / 9.4
1 bar / 64.0 ohms
2 bars / 85.3 ohms
3 bars / 112.2 ohms
4 bars / 139.4 ohms
5 bars / 168.9 ohms
6 bars / 178.3 ohms
So it looks like even new one is out of spec if it was VDO? I might be able to measure those myself and that could give enough resolution/accuracy for CTL usage for hot starts.

For oilpressure I found these measurements for 911 sensor (930 could be totally different)
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Oil pressure (indicated gauge psi vs input resistance):
140 psi = 182 ohms
100 psi = 145 ohms
60 psi = 94 ohms
20 psi = 46 ohms
0 psi = 17 ohms
So unless I use an adapter for another pressure sensor I need to measure this one too. It would be cool to be able to use the stock one though for more authentic look. I will try to use my 123/TUNE distributor for cam sync anyway (points type output) but if the VR next to it gives too much trouble then a HALL sensor in the air pump housing (I have a bolt in there already but the hole I thought I could use on the housing is in the wrong place so more tinkering, heat shield interference)
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Wouldn't be hard to plumb a t fitting up there so you could install whatever sensor you want.

Scaling the oem sensor would be the easier path.
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Yep, just use a DMM and put the sensor in different Temps of water and measure output.

Only need 2 points of data.

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