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Old 02-06-2017, 10:48 AM
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I have 9" Fuchs on the back of my ROW 930 that were bought from Ruf in 1984 , but Ruf got them from DP. Tuners were ahead of Porsche. Hot stuff back then.
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I believe the front turbo fenders were always stamped. The rear flairs were butt welded through '85.
I thought they were to 85 also. The front flares on my 78 930 are welded on like the rears
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That pretty darn cool.

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That pretty darn cool.

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Thanks, I think so to. Of course there was no novelty, hot rod, special thing about it after 86. They look just like any other Porsche 9 Fuchs.
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Kevin, another change I just thought of is in 1986, a thermostat switch controlled, electric fan was added to the fender mounted oil cooler.

Also, the late 70's front wheel hubs required wheel spacers to be used - the later hubs have the "spacer" built in (in the front only - rears still used spacers).
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I had a trombone style cooler when i bought my car,i remember thinkinhg what the hell is this as it did not resemble a oilcooler

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^^^

Ya' those things are funny! I guess some factory dude saw there was extra oil pipe sitting around, wound it around his arm, extension cord style, and said "yep, that'll work"!
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And what change would that be - nothing I'm aware of made the boost delivery more linear - same turbocharger, same ignition system (other than the rev limiter being moved from the distributor rotor to an over-engineered electronic box under the drivers' seat), etc. The addition of Lambda control did nothing for boost delivery - only help control/reduce emissions. The only revision to the fuel injection was the switch to the cast aluminum, Lambda fuel head - less susceptible to corrosion than the early, cast iron head, and uses a rubber primary diaphragm, as opposed to the early steel one, so is more resistant to damage from fuel pressure spikes, but again, does nothing with regard to boost management.




Another change that I don't think has been mentioned is to the design and construction of the dash - I think starting with 1986, the dash tops were made of a material that is much more resistant to warping (on the top and the face area around the center vents), and the two vents on the outermost edges of the dash face actually became functional (the early ones are little more than slits that flow almost no air).

Huge, boat anchor York a/c compressors were used in the late 70's models - much better (smaller. lighter, more efficent) rotary a/c compressors used in the later 80's models (Japanese, Nippondenso brand).


I like the earlier all leather dash it adds a extra touch of luxury. And is more graceful with its smaller vents.


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^^^

So now yer saying that the earlier models were more refined, graceful and less raw?!?!


I've never thought of dash vents in terms of gracefulness; only think about what it will take to get a sufficient amount of arctic air to fire out of them!
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^^^ Are you knocking Porsche Engineering again?

Lets remember it was 1979 and US cars were trying to get more than 175hp out of a V8 and an auto transmission that could last more than a year.
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Good point, butt it's fun to knock Porsche engineering since so many fanboyz speak of these cars in "holy grail" terms and say that their numerous design flaws are "character"!
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^^^ Are you knocking Porsche Engineering again?
Yo' Deez, have I ever mentioned how bad the wiring/fusing/circuity is on 911s/930s - talk about electronics 101 worst practices! Weird, too, because a same year 944/951 is far better in that regard. The 911 side of the factory had their heads way up their keisters when it came to the ol' "how not to burn it down" department!
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From 1984 to 1986 the suspension was revised to be more neutral as well.

What suspension components were changed?


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Let's not forget the wonderful 911 HVAC systems compared to others. Or.....the lack of fuse protection on electrical devices, or the turbocharger oil sump return line to oil tank UNFILTERED, powered seats...c'mon, how many of you allow other people drive your car?
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Good point, butt it's fun to knock Porsche engineering since so many fanboyz speak of these cars in "holy grail" terms and say that their numerous design flaws are "character"!
I think those people don't actually work on their cars.


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Yo' Deez, have I ever mentioned how bad the wiring/fusing/circuity is on 911s/930s - talk about electronics 101 worst practices! Weird, too, because a same year 944/951 is far better in that regard. The 911 side of the factory had their heads way up their keisters when it came to the ol' "how not to burn it down" department!
Oh I understand fully. Chrysler could have taught them a thing or two.

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Let's not forget the wonderful 911 HVAC systems compared to others. Or.....the lack of fuse protection on electrical devices, or the turbocharger oil sump return line to oil tank UNFILTERED, powered seats...c'mon, how many of you allow other people drive your car?
I believe this thread is taking a turn...
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. . . or the turbocharger oil sump return line to oil tank UNFILTERED, . . .
Yep, that ^^^ was downright stupidity - and to think it was not corrected during the entire production run of those cars!
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From 1984 to 1986 the suspension was revised to be more neutral as well.
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What suspension components were changed?


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Actually, the opposite is true, 930 . . .xx - I just did a quick lookie at the parts catalogs, and the later models' (1986-1988, butt 1989 back to smaller diameter) rear, anti-roll bar is 2mm thicker diameter than the ones from the late 70's, (aka - harsher ride).


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