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My money is on a valve adjustment and maybe check the CIS.
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Getting ready to drop $20,000 on engine overhaul

I'd like to get this done for $25,000 and that's including state sales tax. I'd like just to the valve guides ect done as this car had a top end overhaul 1500 or so miles ago but that was 16 years ago..














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Getting ready to drop $20,000 on engine overhaul

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My money is on a valve adjustment and maybe check the CIS.


I hope I found another receipt showing when the chains tensioners and clutch were replaced. This was 5000 miles ago but 20 years ago..


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$25000 ??? WTF are you talking about?? Good luck, you don't seem to want to hear anything anyone on here has told you.
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Transmission overhauled as well. During this service.




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$25000 ??? WTF are you talking about?? Good luck, you don't seem to want to hear anything anyone on here has told you.


I'm not being disrespectful. What do you suggest? No body's seems to have had to pay someone to do this recently? I just want a barometer.

This is not easy because this is a slippery slope so to speak. And have nothing to go by. No guide line just numbers thrown at me. Numbers that would buy a nice new car.

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What everyone on here has told you. If the car has 54k miles and had a ring job 1500 mi ago get the valves adjusted and drive it, that's it. He can tell you if the CIS needs some attention.
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What everyone on here has told you. If the car has 54k miles and had a ring job 1500 mi ago get the valves adjusted and drive it, that's it. He can tell you if the CIS needs some attention.


I'll keep my fingers crossed. !! I'm not looking to spend $$$ I just want my car right.


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Tony, I (everyone here) does't get it.

You came here seeking insight and received resoundingly overwhelming unison response yet you continue to maintain your extremely myopic and ignorant mindset about this prospect despite a massive consensus NOT TO... that you've put basically ZERO MILES on it since having it rebuilt already... that there is literally NO REASON to touch it.

You were advised to pay the CIS system some attention, and that is IT. Done. Stop. Nothing further.

alas.

Please, *DO* go and have the entire motor rebuilt (to what has now grown to $25k wtf is wrong with you) - top / bottom. Again. Go frickin nuts!

Enjoy that idle garage art / PCA Qtipper bragging rights "I spent $25k on a full motor rebuild!". But, PLEASE do not come on here seeking advice. Just... don't.

It's painful to realize you're not trolling us with the nonsense and profound ignorance and that you're actually quite serious. More money than brains, very certainly. I often wonder how such folks GET / KEEP such money. Sigh.
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Tony, I (everyone here) does't get it.

You came here seeking insight and received resoundingly overwhelming unison response yet you continue to maintain your extremely myopic and ignorant mindset about this prospect despite a massive consensus NOT TO... that you've put basically ZERO MILES on it since having it rebuilt already... that there is literally NO REASON to touch it.

You were advised to pay the CIS system some attention, and that is IT. Done. Stop. Nothing further.

alas.

Please, *DO* go and have the entire motor rebuilt (to what has now grown to $25k wtf is wrong with you) - top / bottom. Again. Go frickin nuts!

Enjoy that idle garage art / PCA Qtipper bragging rights "I spent $25k on a full motor rebuild!". But, PLEASE do not come on here seeking advice. Just... don't.

It's painful to realize you're not trolling us with the nonsense and profound ignorance and that you're actually quite serious. More money than brains, very certainly. I often wonder how such folks GET / KEEP such money. Sigh.


I'll just see what they say tomorrow. If they tell me it's fine then I'll be happy. I kinda would like to get to the bottom of the sewing machine sound when the engine is hot.

I really do think I have at least one rocker or valve guide that needs attention.


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Both although I've yet to find a mechanic willing to just do the top. I'll hear back from the current shop tomorrow. Fingers crossed..


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If any mechanic was willing to do even the top end on your engine, considering it was just done 1500 miles ago and there has been no mechanical failure during that time, then he is a crook looking to take advantage of someone that is an easy mark.
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So, What did the shop say?
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So, What did the shop say?


Won't know till tomorrow. Fingers crossed!


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you've ALREADY been CLEARLY INFORMED that the "sewing machine sound" is 1000000000000000fukkin%NORMAL

geeeee

freakin

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Dude (and I'm being quiteserioushere). Just. fukkin. Stop.
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I've stayed out of this until now, all I can say is......IS THIS GUY RELATED TO ROBBBY????

You all remember Robbby right!

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I've stayed out of this until now, all I can say is......IS THIS GUY RELATED TO ROBBBY????

You all remember Robbby right!

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Come on dont need to get nasty let's get keep this positive. And... have you checked the price of a total overhaul lately? Check my thread out in off topics. Looks like anywhere from $25,000 to $30,000. Don't kill the messenger.

Does my car need a total overhaul. Surely hope not I can't afford $30,000 at this point.

Let's look at the real problem. I've yet to find a mechanic that will pull heads rework them / replace rocker arms ect WITHOUT overhauling the whole engine.

I'm hoping this one will be different.

I talked to four shops about a possible badrocker arm/ bad valve guides.

Shop # 1 use to employ a English gentleman by the name of Tomas he died of cancer about 7 years ago. Genius Ferrari Porsche tech and Great person. They flat told me NO thanks. This as they have Lamborghini and a testarossa in their shop at the moment. Excuse.. our aircooled guy moved to Colorado we just don't see enough of them and they are really hard to find parts for even harder to find quality machine shops. We had to send everything to california..

RIP Tomas

Shop # 2 not interested.

Shop # 3 I can't get to it until may/june and I'm not doing anything but a complete overhaul. Just doing the top end is asking for trouble. Oh by the way.. I'm rebuilding a 3.3 twice now because of a bad batch of GLYCO bearings. I put the engine on the dyno and all the bearings spun. Really right now it's tough to get good parts. I have a hard time getting suppliers that will keep quality parts. I have to drill them about where everything is made, I absolutely DO NOT PUT PARTS THAT ARE MADE IN CHINA in any engine I build and now my suppliers are carrying parts made in china.. By the way all the stuff coming from pelican parts.. Made in CHINA..

Tony call me back about may/june

This coming from a master 930 engine builder who has probably built a 100 + 930 engines over the last 30 years.

Shop # 4 is very very qualified and their porsche mechanic/specialist may be one on the best in the nation. I will see what he says tomorrow.

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Wasn't that the dude that painted his 930 blue with a paint brush?

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Has anyone done a compression or leak down test on this engine?

Does it burn excessive oil?

I just rebuilt my engine over the last year. I had a broken head stud causing a high leak down on the #6 cylinder that initiated the rebuild.

If it comes to rebuilding the engine Contact Chris at TurboKraft about supplying bearings for your engine. I believe he's using Porsche Motorsports gt3 main bearings and clevite rod bearings with coatings. Also make sure to use the better gasket kit by wrightwood racing.

You seem hot to trot on rebuilding an engine that doesn't sound like it needs a rebuild.

Good luck.
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