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930 Air Intake Recomendations

I'm new to the 930 community and have recently picked up a 1982 Euro 930. My previous Porsche was a 1972 911T more than 20 years ago. Anyhow my 930 has an Aire TEK type intake installed that was previously spray painted silver and now the paint is peeling off and the unit is beat up. Anyhow does anyone have a recommendation for a new intake assembly maybe like the Fabspeed 930 Cold Air Intake System? It seems to open up the space back there and provides good access to the fuel distributor and such.

Thanks! Bob
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Bob,

Welcome to the madness!

You can basically make your own fabspeed unit for 1/3 the cost.

The linked filter goes directly ontop of the CIS intake. I put a little notch in mine to allow the idle mixture screw to be turned.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NKCIR0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

Add a catch can so that you don't have oil mist spewing all over the engine.

I don't think it does anything from a performance standpoint. In all likelihood you should not be adjusting the fuel distributor, the only real place that it helps is if you have an adjustable WUR. Also makes idle adjustments easier, but again that isn't something you should have to do often.

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Rich,

Thanks for the info for the K&N...much cheaper for the same idea!

Regarding the catch can - any recommendations for that?
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I wish I had a direct link for a catch can. I haven't put one on mine yet. It's on the to-do list.
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I got one of those K&N for my 930 project, but plan to reinstall the original airbox/filter. not sure if it is identical to the link, but looks the same.

I'll sell the one I have for $30 shipped. if interested let me know and I'll pull it out to check and send a pic.
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Yes please send a pic. Also do you have catch can/breather that I can also install with the new K&N intake filter? If so send a pic for those as well and give me a price for all.

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Bob,

Welcome to the madness!

You can basically make your own fabspeed unit for 1/3 the cost.

The linked filter goes directly ontop of the CIS intake. I put a little notch in mine to allow the idle mixture screw to be turned.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NKCIR0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

Add a catch can so that you don't have oil mist spewing all over the engine.

I don't think it does anything from a performance standpoint. In all likelihood you should not be adjusting the fuel distributor, the only real place that it helps is if you have an adjustable WUR. Also makes idle adjustments easier, but again that isn't something you should have to do often.

Rich
No increase in performance but it sure increases the "whooooooosh" sound when you get in the turbo.
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Looks like a simple solution. Just a large hose clamp to secure the K&M to the flange?
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Hi Bob,

Congrats on the 930 and welcome! Post up some pics

We have a fantastic intake system for the 930 Turbo Slantnose that we run on our own '87 930 Turbo with gains of 21whp and 14ft-lbs per our in-house dynojet. Really cleans up the engine bay as well!

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Alec,

Is that the same Fabspeed 930 Cold Air Intake System listed on the Pelican Parts listing?

Bob
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Hi Bob,

Congrats on the 930 and welcome! Post up some pics

We have a fantastic intake system for the 930 Turbo Slantnose that we run on our own '87 930 Turbo with gains of 21whp and 14ft-lbs per our in-house dynojet.
What?! 21 at the wheels for an air cleaner? You have pegged my BS meter, my special one with the needle and the little lights that turn red at MAX BS!
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1982 Porsche 930

Here is a recent photo of my 930...quite a bit different from my 1972 911T.
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What?! 21 at the wheels for an air cleaner? You have pegged my BS meter, my special one with the needle and the little lights that turn red at MAX BS!
Something smells and i cant figure it out.Hahaha sighn me up.

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I'm just trying to find an intake filter for these 930's that opens up the space back there and preforms well. Also I don't like the factory set up for the breathers as well. The advertised 21 at the wheels is not really important to me. I think the car has plenty of HP as it is. I just want something that fits well back there, preforms well, and wont empty by bank account.
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Just do the K&N and pick up a catch can for the various vent lines, and vent that overboard.
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Hi Bob,

Congrats on the 930 and welcome! Post up some pics

We have a fantastic intake system for the 930 Turbo Slantnose that we run on our own '87 930 Turbo with gains of 21whp and 14ft-lbs per our in-house dynojet. Really cleans up the engine bay as well!

Porsche 911 Turbo 930 Air Intake System - Fabspeed Motorsport


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21HP? I didn't think you gained HP by changing over from the factory Filter housing (with a K&N). I've been using the K&N Cone as mentioned above for the last few years and never really noticed any gains over stock unit with K&N....What do you guys do different?
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Hummmm....I think a decimal or two are missing.... 2.1 whp & 1.4 lbs/ft could be conceivable, maybe, sorta, kinda?? Just advertising that it's for a slant nose (like that makes any difference at all!!) kinda says it all anyway.

It does look like a clean kit though....but $294 ouch!

Similar statement like the one used in car ad for Carfax ad says....show me the dyno chart!!

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Bob,

Welcome to the madness!

You can basically make your own fabspeed unit for 1/3 the cost.

The linked filter goes directly ontop of the CIS intake. I put a little notch in mine to allow the idle mixture screw to be turned.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NKCIR0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage

Add a catch can so that you don't have oil mist spewing all over the engine.

I don't think it does anything from a performance standpoint. In all likelihood you should not be adjusting the fuel distributor, the only real place that it helps is if you have an adjustable WUR. Also makes idle adjustments easier, but again that isn't something you should have to do often.

Rich
I just purchased this K&N filter; it did not work for me. First; it wouldn't fit until I trimmed the engine compartment foam sound mat and trimmed off a little of the K&N's rubber ID flange. Finally I actually squeezed it over the sensor plate and into position. When I began tightening down the large hose clamp it pulled part of the rubber ID flange away from sensor plate's rim towards the center of the sensor plate Venturi. The sensor plate ridge diameter is too shallow, any effort to clamp the rubber diameter around the sensor plate diameter will force it to roll over the sensor plate top diameter edge.

I would be worried if I actually got it to clamp; there's a very good chance it would not stay in position.
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There is a metal ring that holds the original , large diameter o'ring that was used to seal the airbox to the air metering housing - that has to be removed from the air metering housing (it just sits there - can be lifted right off) before the K&N is put on - plenty to clamp to, then.

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This sounds like an ad from the old JC Whitney catalog. Their claims always rang the BS Bell. For those of you that remember you could spend about $500.00 dollars and buy a bunch of performance goodies for just about any make or model of car. The great benefit was if all the gains in HP and mileage were obtained you could easily double or triple your horse power and fuel mileage.
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