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hargett shifter....

I think that I have read all the posts regarding the above subject. I have recently had my 930 gearbox freshened and just reinstalled the engine and transaxle. I have one of the first 930 shifters mark built in the car. I have always had difficulty shifting into reverse. but, I have never changed the spring.....I did remove the cup and spring to check it out. so question number one....does the selector rod have to be in any particular position when the spring and cup are replaced? is there a part number for a softer spring? and, is mark still in business. I have called a couple of times and emailed but no response!!! thanks for any help. does anyone have a link to the proper adjustment procedure?
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Check my post #10 here:

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roland, any source for this spring in the US? ill try mark again today but have had no luck trying to catch him! I bought one of his later 930 shifters for another car and it was much easier to adjust as well as to shift. I thought about buying the later version to replace the one I have but if I can get this one to shift properly I don't want to spend the 800 bucks. the reason I had to have my gearbox freshened was due to the shift linkage coming apart while shifting and it knocked the second gear synchroes out!
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I put a Hargett into my 915 equipped 911 race car. I really liked it at first, but within 1 season the linkages in the shifter became very sloppy and caused me to miss shifts. I spun the motor (freshly built by Dawes) with a "money shift" trying for 3rd to 4th but instead touching 2nd gear. Luckily not high enough RPM for mechanical overrev and resulting engine damage but easily could have been. I never drove the car again with the Hargett. Dropped in a Wevo.

I like Mark's design but its complex and the initially close tolerances quickly wear to "slop" in my experience. It was difficult to get him to manufacture my unit a couple years ago and it was when I asked for a refund after a month or two of no ship that he finally delivered the product. Nice guy and cool stuff but I get the impression that he's got other stuff going on and the shifter isn't getting much attention.
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I have phoned and left message for mark....no answer and no email response. after trying for the last hour I an still no further along....1,2,3,4 gears seem fine but I cant get the car into reverse. when I think that I have moved the cup far enough it still is 1st gear. as I move the shifter back out of first should I be able to feel a ,,,notch...opening...that indicates that I am at the gate? or is it the rearward movement of the gearshift with some outward pressure that allows the shifter to find its own way? I did remove the reverse spring plug and of course the pressure was more than I thought and the spring came all the way out of the transaxle, I replaced it....could this have caused a shifter problem?
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Don't mean to clutter up thread , I've been trying to contact Hargett myself , but they make runs and have no idea when the next run will be. Left messages and no reply found a 915 shifter that is new in box will it work for a 930 4 speed ?

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I have about 1/2 Meter of the needed spring left (bought a while ago for my shifter). I can send you one in the right length for free, but you must be patient, normal letter needs a while from Switzerland to the US. PM me with your address if you want me to...
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thank you, roland. PM just sent!!!
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thank you roland. I will install the spring today and renew my search for reverse. still no word from hargett! does anyone have specific instuctions for the proper adjustment of the hargett shifter? thanks for the help!
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Thank you. Let me know, how the spring works for you
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The shifter position is fantastic, the machining is also well done. The engineering and execution left me wanting. Mine broke where the ball cup was mounted. Drove home in second gear. Spoke to them about a mod in the design which would be easy and prevent this. Got the brush off... The linkage kits also are not of the highest quality/design. Have no idea if the design ever got modified, never ordered another one to see.
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i started this thread about my problems with the hargett shifter. the spring that profighter sent me was installed and completely changed the operation of the shifter....almost miraculous! i do think that i bought one of the first hargett shifters that was built...and i had problems with it from day one. i believe that mark redesigned the shifter as i bought one later and it was much better that the first one i bought. i was about to buy a new shifter for my 911...perhaps from''' another vendor but luckily the new softer spring allowed me to use the shifter i had...800-900 dollar savings!
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I too have the hargett shifter and nice guy when you get in touch with him but got the impression that he has other things to do and does not really car about the 930 product anymore.
Does anyone know where I can get some spare parts for the shifter. I am looking for the ball that treads into the bottom of the shifter. I broke one already and had a great time shifting my car with the rod only. would like a couple in case it happens again
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i believe that the ball that fits into the cup is actually machined as part of the shifter handle. are you sure that it is threaded and screws onto the shifter. as i stated i bought maybe the first one sold and it might be different. always had trouble with the shifter ball disengaging from the cup. i will try to look at mine again. did you break it trying to shift to reverse? i don't have any parts and i never did talk to hargett after numerous attempts.
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i believe that the ball that fits into the cup is actually machined as part of the shifter handle. are you sure that it is threaded and screws onto the shifter. as i stated i bought maybe the first one sold and it might be different. always had trouble with the shifter ball disengaging from the cup. i will try to look at mine again. did you break it trying to shift to reverse? i don't have any parts and i never did talk to hargett after numerous attempts.
definitely is separate. I broke one already and replaced it.. I am not having a reverse issue. I replaced the spring and getting into reverse is very easy with the lighter spring.
Before I replaced the spring getting into reverse was almost impossible. I am having an issue with getting out of second with this shifter and have to give it a little shove to get out and I think that broke it...
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