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Anyone ever try to pre-fill a C2 Turbo Oil Filter?

I'm referring to the engine-mounted oil filter console. I tried filling the filter before mounting it, but no luck. Poured about 1-2 ounces before it was up to the oil filter gasket area.
Trying to minimize the time it takes the pump to fill the filter and then pressurize the oil circuit. Rebuilt engine.
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Why not just disable the ignition and fuel pump, turn it over until the oil press. bounces then start it?
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I plan on doing that, plus taking out the lower spark plugs on the twin plug engine so it spins over faster. But still, it takes time for the oil pump to fill the filter and then pressurize the oil galleys.
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Ok, close, very close. Answers my voice question earlier.
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you got me curious.
got any pics? console? you mean you are filling the part that the filter screws on to?

are you filling the filter itself?
I put about 3/4 oil in my 930 filter before putting it back on.

I saw a study about oil longevity and one of the findings was most engine damage was done at oil change.
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Why fill the filter on a 930? If it's the stock setup it's on the return line from the scavenge pump.
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yea, just habit I guess. I do that to all my cars.
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I mounted the C2 Turbo Oil Filter Console on the 930 for added protection. The filter console mounts in the location of the engine oil cooler. The filter, judging from its size, probably holds about a pint of oil. I thought if I could fill the filter before mounting it, I could reduce the time it takes to pressurize the oil galleys. Pics below....



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Great idea, would like to hear more details. Where did you get the console, do you still use the stock filter on the tank, any other mods req'd?
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I fill my oil filters before putting them on, even the 930 (about half). that one should be easy.
don't fill to the top of the filter, about 3/4 is good.

how do the engine temps do with that setup?
I have 2 remote oil coolers, I wonder if I could go that route.
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Why not just disable the ignition and fuel pump, turn it over until the oil press. bounces then start it?
I find I have to do this just to get all the oil over to the oil tank from the crankcase. Otherwise, I can't get all 10 quarts into the engine.
So pre-filling the filter is a moot point.
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I usually just put in around 7-8 qts, start it and let it get hot then add using the gauge on the dash. once about 1/4-1/2 on the dash I check the stick. this also verifies the dash to the stick.

lot easier than putting oil in then check the stick, put more oil in, check the stick.
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Great idea, would like to hear more details. Where did you get the console, do you still use the stock filter on the tank, any other mods req'd?
Yes, I'm still using the tank filter too. I'll create a post that shows oil filter consoles of the C2 Turbo and 993 variety. I'll provide the link to the page here for future reference. When I was putting together the project, I got some useful information from another Pelicanite that had installed a 993 filter console on his engine. A lot of people are not reading the initial post fully. I am NOT referring to the Tank Filter. The engine has been modified with a C2 Turbo Oil Filter Console mounted on the ENGINE.
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I fill my oil filters before putting them on, even the 930 (about half). that one should be easy.
don't fill to the top of the filter, about 3/4 is good.

how do the engine temps do with that setup?
I have 2 remote oil coolers, I wonder if I could go that route.
Engine is not running yet.....few more bridges to cross before that happens.

Prefilling the tank oil filter is really not accomplishing anything. That filter is filtering the oil from the engine sump pump before it is deposited back into the tank. It's messy enough just getting a used filter outta' there.
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