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Can these Speedlines be brought back to life?

Friend has these sitting on an old rust bucket. Can they be restored? Worth it? Who does them?

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Try asking user Thatcher ? I think that is his username. If you can't find him, I think this is his website: http://www.independentwheel.com/ . Maybe send him the picture and see what he says.

You should make sure they are real Speedlines. I think that is the Alessio model. And that they have no corrosion, cracks or bends. If they are magnesium centers (some Speedlines are) I would strongly recommend having them X-rayed.

Don't do powdercoat, thickness of the coating hides cracks. Use proper sealant and new hardware correctly torqued. Etc.

Alos, if this "rust-bucket" isn't a Porsche, then the bolt pattern won't be the correct 5x130.

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Thanks

The rust bucket is sadly a 911 sitting behind my friends shop.
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The rust bucket is sadly a 911 sitting behind my friends shop.
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How rusty?

Edit: Just saw in the pic they still have the original "Speedline" etching in the barrel. Strong indicator they are real.
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I PM'D Thatcher

I can get pic Monday of the car. There are 3 of them there. 2 of them are 196?

This one is 197?
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I got a set of Kinesis Supercups that were in similar condition and was able to bring them back to life. Lots of elbow grease, but it was worth it.
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Here is the Speedline expert, located in California, near Bakersfield I believe.

Jim Dorociak at jdorociak@gmail.com will be able to help you, he is a member of Rennlist and comes highly recommended. Do a search on rennlist 964 and 993 forums and you will be able to see some of his work.
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Perfect

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Yep, take the wheels apart. The centers will have to be repainted. The outer lips will just need to be re-polished, and then just buy new hardware (bolts and nuts). Put back together, and reseal... good as new!!!!

look for about $250 for the hardware for all four wheels
$20 on the sealant
and whatever the labor is for the polishing of the lips and repaint of the centers...

And another plug for Thatcher.... he is the man!!!

Here are the wheels I just completed for myself ( the inners were not repanited)

[IMG]20170713_173557 by Brad, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Yep, take the wheels apart. The centers will have to be repainted. The outer lips will just need to be re-polished, and then just buy new hardware (bolts and nuts). Put back together, and reseal... good as new!!!!

look for about $250 for the hardware for all four wheels
$20 on the sealant
and whatever the labor is for the polishing of the lips and repaint of the centers...

And another plug for Thatcher.... he is the man!!!

Here are the wheels I just completed for myself ( the inners were not repanited)

[IMG]20170713_173557 by Brad, on Flickr[/IMG]
Those are beautiful wheels!!!
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Are those available to purchase anywhere?
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If you pass on them I would be interested. Work out of Winston regularly and could shoot over.
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If you pass on them I would be interested. Work out of Winston regularly and could shoot over.
What are they worth?
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refinished probably 3-4k

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how did you polish your wheels?
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how did you polish your wheels?
The outer lips on the rears were polished by Thatcher, when I bought them. The front lips (which I took of the rear wheels, and put them on the front, were polished by just red shop towels and elbow grease) About every 6 months or so, just hit them with some Mother's Aluminum polish, and then spray detail wax/polish when I do the rest of the car.
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Here is the Speedline expert, located in California, near Bakersfield I believe.

Jim Dorociak at jdorociak@gmail.com will be able to help you, he is a member of Rennlist and comes highly recommended. Do a search on rennlist 964 and 993 forums and you will be able to see some of his work.
+1 on Jim.
Very skilled guy and great to work with.
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I have experience restoring these types of wheels and BBS off road race wheels that are made of aluminum too thin to be DOT compliant.
I also have unpleasant expensive experience with Jim Dorociak...
He sprayed some kind of lousy BS puff can clear coat on them and it did not work. The aluminum quickly corroded under the crappy thin clear he sprayed on and looked like sh_t.
What really pissed me off is he acted like a pathetic prima donna and would not tell me what he sprayed on them.
To strip the crap he sprayed on them off so you can repolish the wheels they have to be completely taken apart and aviation paint remover is needed to get the BS Dorociak sprayed on them off. That was years ago and I hope he's done with ripping people off by now.

Bottom line is you have those shiny polished bare aluminum wheels clear coated professionally with clear urethane aviation or marine enama or best of all have them clear anodized.
They are going to look like crap after 3 weeks of actually driving the car in differing weather because aluminum corrodes and you can't stop it.
Not a garage queen that only gets looked at and polished... I'm talking a car you actually drive anywhere in any weather.
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reminds me of when I had my targa top rebuilt.
I told the guy DO NOT PAINT ANYTHING. just replace the top.

well I got the top back and he took a rattle can and hit some of the scratches. looked like crap.
the bracing still looked good with the factory coating, looked like wurths, then there were these spray can spots.
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