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93097004xx 01-03-2018 04:01 AM

The 930 is THE best and only classic super car to own!
 
Not a puff piece.



After researching several possible stablemates Iíve become completely SHOCKED at the maintenance cost of other exotics..

10 years of 930 ownership could cost as little as $3000..

10 years of testarossa ownership.. try $30,000 to $50,000.. as they have a cam belt change every 3 years (per ferrari) at a cost of $10,000 to $15,000..

All cam belt driven ferraris are pretty much in the same maintenance schedule.

What Iím saying here is 930s are by far the easiest super car to own period!

A Great super car and still a GREATLY under appreciated super car.

RarlyL8 01-03-2018 04:36 AM

Yes the 930 is arguably the only exotic that folks can and do use as a daily driver. Even now that the prices have gone up owners are still modding, racing and driving them.

matsuzaka 01-03-2018 06:28 AM

I agree completely. I’ve been saying the same for many years. 930 is the most reasonable semi-exotic car an average person can own.
I think this is mainly because the 911 has been around a long time and share many parts and design with the 930. For many of us who own 930s today we are just lucky things turned out this way.
Aside from the people that ponied up to buy a 930 when they were new, Ferraris and Lamborghinis were never meant to be purchased by average people. If you earn $50-60k a week a $15-30k tune up every three years is not so painful, like they say, the more you earn the more you spend.

flightlead404 01-03-2018 06:37 AM

One reason we think these cars have such reasonable maintenance costs is that many of us do own own maintenance. While parts cost and availability certainly plays into this, its pretty routine for our group to pull an engine. I gather that is the giant cost for a Ferrari belt change, pulling the engine.

So why don't our Ferrari brethren do their own maintenance also? I can't imagine its that much different. Sure the engine comes out the top not the bottom (I think), but hoists are cheap. They have the same CIS system, adjusting valves and so forth is not really much different than other cars, although possibly twice as many.

VZ935 01-03-2018 06:42 AM

I drove my 83 all over Europe from 83-84 and it was my everyday driver here in the States from 84 to 94 . I had the center control unit by the handbrake go bad once otherwise oil change, plugs

Great car

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Oyagi 01-03-2018 06:42 AM

The 930 is THE best and only classic super car to own!
 
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Originally Posted by flightlead404 (Post 9870546)
One reason we think these cars have such reasonable maintenance costs is that many of us do own own maintenance. While parts cost and availability certainly plays into this, its pretty routine for our group to pull an engine. I gather that is the giant cost for a Ferrari belt change, pulling the engine.

So why don't our Ferrari brethren do their own maintenance also? I can't imagine its that much different. Sure the engine comes out the top not the bottom (I think), but hoists are cheap. They have the same CIS system, adjusting valves and so forth is not really much different than other cars, although possibly twice as many.





Methinks itís the demographics. Porscheís Owners I know, especially aircooled owners...are very DIY.

Iím new to the 930 and Porsche world (owner since 9/30/16) but I love how the community helps one another and truly are gearheads, much like my other chosen carsí communities.

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16Volt 01-03-2018 02:24 PM

The community here largely drew me to the 930, at the time I was considering a Mercedes Pagoda or similar vintage Ferrari.

jwasbury 01-04-2018 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 93097004xx (Post 9870462)
10 years of 930 ownership could cost as little as $3000.

^a 930 actually being driven and accumulating miles over 10 years with only $3000 in maintenance would be a car with a lot of needs... actual cost of ownership will be higher for a car that is driven

bpu699 01-04-2018 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93097004xx (Post 9870462)
Not a puff piece.



After researching several possible stablemates Iíve become completely SHOCKED at the maintenance cost of other exotics..

10 years of 930 ownership could cost as little as $3000..

10 years of testarossa ownership.. try $30,000 to $50,000.. as they have a cam belt change every 3 years (per ferrari) at a cost of $10,000 to $15,000..

All cam belt driven ferraris are pretty much in the same maintenance schedule.

What Iím saying here is 930s are by far the easiest super car to own period!

A Great super car and still a GREATLY under appreciated super car.

I have both. 930 is cheap compared to the Ferrari, more fun to drive too...

You can go 5-10 years on a testarossa major. 10-15k about right if you pay for it, 3-5k if you do it yourself...

Porsche parts are 5-10x that of a Chevy. Ferrari parts are 5x Porsche parts...

Oil filters for the testarossa were $50 when I bought it 10-15 years ago... Now about $300... Chevy? 10$

Bo

VZ935 01-04-2018 06:18 PM

I agree.. the two Porsche cost much less than my BB512 did,

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Originally Posted by bpu699 (Post 9872686)
I have both. 930 is cheap compared to the Ferrari, more fun to drive too...

You can go 5-10 years on a testarossa major. 10-15k about right if you pay for it, 3-5k if you do it yourself...

Porsche parts are 5-10x that of a Chevy. Ferrari parts are 5x Porsche parts...

Oil filters for the testarossa were $50 when I bought it 10-15 years ago... Now about $300... Chevy? 10$

Bo

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kevin930t 01-04-2018 06:29 PM

I know the more i drive my 930 the better it gets.These cars do not like to be parked.

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onboost 01-05-2018 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flightlead404 (Post 9870546)
One reason we think these cars have such reasonable maintenance costs is that many of us do own own maintenance. While parts cost and availability certainly plays into this, its pretty routine for our group to pull an engine. I gather that is the giant cost for a Ferrari belt change, pulling the engine.

So why don't our Ferrari brethren do their own maintenance also? I can't imagine its that much different. Sure the engine comes out the top not the bottom (I think), but hoists are cheap. They have the same CIS system, adjusting valves and so forth is not really much different than other cars, although possibly twice as many.

Some of us perform "diy" on Ferraris too... however, the Ferrari community is a bit more prickly to deal with than the Porsche community.

I've always said that Ferrari did one helluva marketing job around creating the "maintenance Mystique" for there cars. Most in that prickly community believe;
- That no one outside of a factory trained tech should touch these cars.
- In some cases this is true, depends on model and issue
- All parts boxes should have the Prancing Hor$e.
- Non-authorized service is sacrilegious and de-values your car
- depends on model and issue, and skill level of person doing the work.. the same I think holds true for our Porsches.

- When attending an event, you should wear Gucci :confused:

The availability of new parts is a bit more limited depending upon model, and everyone thinks they're gold. Used parts aren't much better in some cases... however you can cross reference much many of the parts because they were manufactured for something else. Fuel delivery and most of the eclectics are Bosch, brakes are ATE, and/or Girling in some cases. I get quite a laugh about the F-car mark-up. Stock Koni shocks are ridiculously expensive whether new or rebuilt and many owners are switching to QA1s w/Eibach springs to save cash and get adjustability and better handling.

Most of the engines, again depending on model, can be removed from top or bottom, as the cars do have a race bred heritage and it shows when disassembling them.
For the timing belts.. its pretty much if you're capable of doing one on any of the twin cam jap cars, you can do one of these. Follow the process and use common sense.

so that's my take..

Norm K 01-05-2018 07:13 AM

Part of the appeal of the 930 is how docile it is, when desired. Unless the recipient of a pretty darned extreme build, it's not at all high-strung, as many of its Italian contemporaries are. For example, with of her driving habits, my wife couldn't tell the difference between my 930 and my SC.

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flightlead404 01-05-2018 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Norm K (Post 9873216)
Part of the appeal of the 930 is how docile it is, when desired. Unless the recipient of a pretty darned extreme build, it's not at all high-strung, as many of its Italian contemporaries are. For example, with of her driving habits, my wife couldn't tell the difference between my 930 and my SC.

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She's Doing It Wrong(tm)

:D:D:D

Highway-Star 01-05-2018 09:25 AM

One thing I love about a 930, it is possible to drive it without feeling overly self-conscious.

Not sure is there another similar performance car, that I could possibly drive without feeling a little embarrassed.

Norm K 01-05-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by flightlead404 (Post 9873296)
She's Doing It Wrong(tm)

:D:D:D


She more than makes up for it by doing so many other things right.

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Rawknees'Turbo 01-05-2018 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Norm K (Post 9873575)
She more than makes up for it by doing so many other things right.

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Got pics or vids?!?! :eek:

Norm K 01-05-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 9873619)
Got pics or vids?!?! :eek:

Only of your mom and sister.

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Rawknees'Turbo 01-05-2018 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Norm K (Post 9873624)
Only of your mom and sister.

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Well, I'm the one that took those, so I've seen them already! :D

Norm K 01-05-2018 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo (Post 9873635)
Well, I'm the one that took those, so I've seen them already! :D


While you might have seen those, I assure you, you haven't seen these!

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