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jim tulloch 05-09-2018 01:59 PM

lambda system not working...lean running
 
My Lambda system is not working, frequency valve not vibrating and there is no signal at the diagnostic port using a dwell meter. So, i need to determine continuity of wires and identify what is not working. I need a wiring diagram showing the connections at the 'computer" under the seat and what each is for. Second, if a frequency valve is not working does it "close " so no fuel gets by? That seems to be what is happening. If it is bad, who has them for sale? I think I need to get this system functioning..there appears no other solution. Right?
Any guidance would be most appreciated. Thanks jim

mark houghton 05-09-2018 07:39 PM

If you can't get it working, and don't care about the lambda circuit for emissions reasons, then the fuel distributor can be "tweaked" to run with all the lambda stuff bypassed. I can't give you an detail on how to do it, but best left to a professional shop that can. I once unplugged my freq valve just for kicks, and she ran super lean per my AFR gauge, and I could not get it back in the correct range with adjusting the mixture control alone. Mr. Fairman may be able to give more concise advice if he's listening today.

jim tulloch 05-10-2018 07:56 PM

Thanks Mark, i appreciat ethe input. I would prefer not to compensate for the lambda system but also realize how much i do not know anything but how it works. I really need wiring diagrams, thoughts about how to check out the system. I have verified today the frequency valve is not receiving a signal so the frequency valve may be working. Thanks again, jim

Speedy Squirrel 05-11-2018 07:17 AM

This is a big diagram, and it involves the Lambda controller, the speed relay, the thermo switches, the throttle switches, and the PWM solenoid. You are going to need a multimeter, and preferably one that can read duty cycle. The wiring diagram contains minimal hints as to how it all works.

So, do you still want it?

jim tulloch 05-11-2018 02:53 PM

Hi SS....yes I do! I have seen elements of the diagram but not in it’s entirity. Understanding how each component influences the others will take some time but I have to start somewhere. Thanks, jim

Speedy Squirrel 05-12-2018 06:55 AM

Well, that kind of courage deserves some support.



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Originally Posted by jim tulloch (Post 10033708)
Hi SS....yes I do! I have seen elements of the diagram but not in it’s entirity. Understanding how each component influences the others will take some time but I have to start somewhere. Thanks, jim

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jim tulloch 05-13-2018 04:05 AM

Thank you.... Wow! Jim

T77911S 05-15-2018 09:13 AM

the FV gets its power from the o2 rly under the seat.
that rly is energized by FP rly 2.. just another thing loaded on the FP circuit.

you can try to resolder the connections on the O2 rly.
you can also check the fuse for the O2 rly. don't know which one but it is fuse 18 for a 911.
start with the fuse first.

jim tulloch 05-16-2018 11:13 AM

Thanks for the O2 power supply relay info. Good advice. When i look under the seat I see three units, the oxygen sensor control unit, the speed relay and the fuel enrichment control unit. I see no other relay. On the wiring diagram the O2 power supply relay with the traditional numbered (86,30,86,85) connections. Where is the relay? What am I missing? Thanks, jim

T77911S 05-17-2018 02:52 AM

I think it is back on the relay panel in the engine bay.

my lambda has all been removed

flightlead404 05-17-2018 06:24 AM

The other option is to install a WBO2 sensor and go FrankenCIS


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