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How many 1988 911 Turbos imported?

I am curious, how many 1988 Porsche 911 turbos were imported to the USA in 1988?

Dealer imported, not counting grey market cars. Just the facts please.

I all ready have opinions.......


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What is the source for your information?

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How many 1988 911 Turbos imported?

Whatís interesting is we are seeing a fair amount of US 930s being sold back overseas.

Strong indication as I have always suspected that RoW 930s had a very high attrition rate. Seems like it could be as high as 40% or even higher but no real way to say..

This is simply what happens when a exotic car gets so cheap that they donít even begin to justify the running cost let alone their restoration cost.. That and most 930s overseas were not garaged by the time they reached even their third owner.

I believe garages to be a relative luxury in europe up until the late 80s even for high end car owners.

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What’s interesting is we are seeing a fair amount of US 930s being sold back overseas.

Strong indication as I have always suspected that RoW 930s had a very high attrition rate. Seems like it could be as high as 40% or even higher but no real way to say..

That and most 930s overseas were not garaged by the time they reached even their third owner.

I believe garages to be a relative luxury in europe up until the late 80s even for high end car owners.
I agree. The last overseas buyer I had that took the time to fly over ( the only way I sell to anyone) was blown away by their condition. Instead of buying just one he upped his offer on it and made substantial offers on 6 others once here. I sold him 4 in total and he upped his offer on others shortly after. I declined his offer & I still have them & happy I did, as the value has risen a lot since.

You are right, that in Germany and other countries most 930s are used up way more and many were ungaraged and were used year round in bad weather at some time since new. Some unrestored ROW that came over when almost new, and many US 930s that some on this forum consider just drivers, are garage queens by comparison. People who sell any other way than in person are most likely leaving lots of $$$ on the table if they have a nice example.
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Per Gabriel/Fraz “Porsche 911 turbo air cooled years” Emissions were different for California so they’re listed separately. 943 total, add 39 for C36 Canadian delivery.

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C02 America..............358..........43...........296
C03 California............115..........26...........10 5

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Does that mean my 1984 ROW 930 is now worth more??? It was not that long ago, that ROW cars were considered pariahs, and thought to be worth much less, at least in the states.

Mine will be up for sale fairly shortly {now if the price is right}, so curious monkeys want to know!

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Example. So yes, depending. Maybe things have changed but from what I understand if a 930 is worth $130K in Germany, a seller of a ROW sold new there can get that amount. If it's a US 930 all he can sell for is $101K as the German buyer now has to pay the 29% tax.
For a $29K profit you might get a flipper who will do that and want/need to offer more for your car to resell if they have the ability and connections. Also the stigma for ROW is not as bad as in decades past, but some were hacked up to pass US regulation that were in force in past decades.
When trying to establish a 930 value a 930 sold new in CA is worth more to a Ca buyer just like a 930 sold new in Germany is worth more to the German buyer. Every other 930 is on a different planet. Some use the CA value model for stock only for all 930s as most desirable ( valuable) as that is where the largest market ( CA ) is but maybe not all really want them that way other than it is necessary to please the powers that be. So to all that live elsewhere, go figure.

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