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QueWhy 02-16-2020 09:18 AM

Parts list for 3.0 rebuild, preferably a spreadsheet
 
I’m sure someone has put together a list of all necessary parts to rebuild an engine. I’ve done a couple searches but haven’t come up with anything. I’d love an excel sheet with all the part numbers so I could plug in cost for a variety of parts/build options.

Knowing the cost difference between a basic 3.0 refresh, spicing up the 3.0, going with the 3.1l supertec kit and, a full on 3.2ss would help me decide which direction and help me budget.

Trackrash 02-16-2020 10:10 AM

Sounds like a moving target to me. With prices and availability constantly changing. With lots of different choices. For example what intake and exhaust, what parts do you already have etc etc.

It may also depend on what you're are starting with. For example I found a COMPLETE SC motor with good MAHLE cylinders, big port, back dated exhaust, even had the CDI. I hit the jack pot for sure. Saved me a ton of time and $$$.

Bruce Anderson's book has a very extensive check list for parts and machining for a rebuild, perhaps even overkill, FWIW.

I did this once upon a time before I built my last motor. I used excel and as I did my research I just filled it in.

The devil is in the details, Good luck.

QueWhy 02-16-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Trackrash (Post 10754508)
Sounds like a moving target to me. With prices and availability constantly changing. With lots of different choices. For example what intake and exhaust, what parts do you already have etc etc.

It may also depend on what your are starting with. For example I found a COMPLETE SC motor with good MAHLE cylinders, big port, back dated exhaust, even had the CDI. I hit the jack pot for sure. Saved me a ton of time and $$$.

Bruce Anderson's book has a very extensive check list for parts and machining for a rebuild, perhaps even overkill, FWIW.

I did this once upon a time before I built my last motor. I used excel and as I did my research I just filled it in.

The devil is in the details, Good luck.

I have Bruce’s book but was hoping someone had already done the data entry and had a good template to work from. It would be a lot easier to have everything listed then filter based on what you need and change prices than write out each iteration. I know there are a million what ifs and plans change once you start taking things apart. I was just hoping to save myself some time getting a solid idea of what the cost for each option was going to be.

shoooo32 02-17-2020 10:30 AM

You're over-thinking it. Wayne's book has the list of "musts", the stuff you have to replace (gasket kits, bearings, chains and guides, etc). Get pricing on that stuff first. Then assume $2-3k for machine work (rockers, rods, crank, heads). Add it up and compare that number to your budget. If there's anything left, start with getting your cams reground to 964 spec ($4-500). Cheap and well worth it. Next would be an RSR flywheel, which doesn't make HP but feels like it does. And lastly, bigger P&Cs. If the stock ones are salvageable it's probably not worth the money, but if you're already buying pistons... why not.

VFR750 02-21-2020 11:17 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/1018859-cost-list-parts-rebuild-3-0l.html

posted in tech section

QueWhy 02-21-2020 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by VFR750 (Post 10760104)

Thanks Mike! That is exactly what I'm looking for. Do you have the spreadsheet available somewhere like google docs or could you send me the excel file? I'd like to be able to plug in some numbers for a couple potential build paths.

VFR750 02-21-2020 01:58 PM

PM me with your email and I'll send you the excel sheet

Restore_84 02-22-2020 01:34 AM

Rebuilding my 3.0
 
Hi Mike, I also sent a pm for copy of the excel. Thanks that looks very helpful! I’m about to start my 3.0 re-build, first attempt should be fun right?

VFR750 02-22-2020 04:48 AM

Wayne's rebuilding book and Bruce Anderson's book are both excellent sources of information.

I followed Wayne's book step by step.

Tweaked some steps like cam timing to suit me.

Used the Ultimate Sealing thread for guidance on "what" to put "where"

I most stressful for me was the case halves. This is a singular step where the entire bottom end goes from a collection of parts to a sealed, finished assembly.

When you mate the two case halves, first try it dry with no sealant. Discover how much time it really going to take to get all those fasteners installed and torqued. Plus you'll discover how easy it would be to miss some of the hidden fasteners.

Makes sure the crankshaft turns easily.

Layout the fasteners precisely on the bench ahead of time, so that it is very obvious if you missed one.

Make sure the oil pump, I/M shaft and chains and seals are in there!

I also used a helper for that one step. 4 hands was much easier than two.

mikedsilva 03-02-2020 02:24 AM

Try this, it's what I use.. might not be what you are after though...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vMgpqQvXbjnLWkFYNdpswe3lbI02yz4U/view?usp=sharing

If that doesn't work, just send me a PM with your email.

QueWhy 03-04-2020 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikedsilva (Post 10769606)
Try this, it's what I use.. might not be what you are after though...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vMgpqQvXbjnLWkFYNdpswe3lbI02yz4U/view?usp=sharing

If that doesn't work, just send me a PM with your email.

It opened just fine. Thank you.

It will probably be quite a while but I’ll post my spreadsheet when it’s done in the hopes it can help someone else.

gtc 03-12-2020 02:26 PM

I would suggest including a budget for replacing some fuel & intake parts like fuel lines and vacuum hoses. You'll probably find that some are pretty ugly, and there is no better time to replace them that when the engine is out and apart.

Wayne 962 03-14-2020 07:40 PM

Yup, I pretty much cover what parts need to be replaced in my book. There's parts diagrams in the back, and throughout the book I review what should absolutely be replaced, what can be saved, and what needs to be upgraded.

Do-it-Yourself Project Books for Porsche, BMW, and MINI | Water-cooled and Air-Cooled Porsche Books | E30 and E36 3-Series BMW Books is the website for the book...

-Wayne

VFR750 03-15-2020 04:15 AM

I created the list from an exported file, created in Pelican Parts Project List.

The list does cover what is in Wayne’s book. That was invaluable to me. I would not have tackled the job without it.


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