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Classic 911 01-16-2023 01:43 AM

Camtiming tolerance factory spec
 
Hi.

Does anyone have the factory tolerance spec side-to-side when timing camshafts ?

buster73 01-16-2023 05:22 AM

Both sides should be within the lift range specified by Porsche resp. the cam manufacturer (if custom cams are used). For example a Euro 3.0 SC should be between 0.9 to 1.1 mm (check specs for your engine and specific cam). Of course it is beneficial if the difference between left and right bank is as small as possible. With the standard timing procedure you will hardly be able to achieve a perfect match between both sides. However fine tuning of cam timing is possible with some extra efforts and you will find several ways how to do this described in this forum. Probably overkill for a stock engine but worth to look into if you are going for a highly tuned and optimized engine.

dannobee 01-16-2023 09:31 AM

I've never seen a side to side spec, but if you're really anal about it, you can use the slop between the pin and vernier sprocket to "fine tune" it by carefully backing off the big nut and ever so slightly rotate the cam to the proper setting, then locking the nut back down. It won't make it run any different, but it'll make you happier if you're one of those types.

Jeff Alton 01-16-2023 07:16 PM

I am guessing Classic 911 was wondering what the tolerance side to side is with both cams being within the spec range??

Get as close as you can left to right. It is a rare day when they are the exact same.

That said, don't be on the low spec on one side and the high spec on the other side, as better can be achieved.... If that makes sense.

Cheers

Classic 911 01-17-2023 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton (Post 11898770)
I am guessing Classic 911 was wondering what the tolerance side to side is with both cams being within the spec range??

Get as close as you can left to right. It is a rare day when they are the exact same.

That said, don't be on the low spec on one side and the high spec on the other side, as better can be achieved.... If that makes sense.

Cheers


Hi,

Yes that’s right.

The spec for my camshaft is 5.2mm at overlap.
After checking again, this time with a digital clock, the left side (1-2-3) is at 5.24mm and the right 4-5-6) is at 5.30.

That’s a 0.06mm or 0.0023" difference side-to-side.

stownsen914 01-17-2023 05:10 AM

Less than .1 mm difference is pretty good. You might be hard pressed to do better, and honestly it's probably within margin of error when you consider chain slop, etc. despite our best efforts to eliminate it.

buster73 01-17-2023 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic 911 (Post 11898901)
After checking again, this time with a digital clock, the left side (1-2-3) is at 5.24mm and the right 4-5-6) is at 5.30. That’s a 0.06mm or 0.0023" difference side-to-side.

Good job. That`s a pretty close match. You can relax and enjoy.

Jeff Alton 01-18-2023 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Classic 911 (Post 11898901)
Hi,

Yes that’s right.

The spec for my camshaft is 5.2mm at overlap.
After checking again, this time with a digital clock, the left side (1-2-3) is at 5.24mm and the right 4-5-6) is at 5.30.

That’s a 0.06mm or 0.0023" difference side-to-side.

That is good work, set well.

Cheers

Alan L 01-18-2023 06:08 PM

I have spent hrs trying to get better than that - often with no luck. Consider it a good day.
Alan

Jeff Alton 01-18-2023 06:47 PM

That delta between left and right is in the "noise" of the measurement.....

There is only so much adustment in using the factory sprockets and hardware....

Mosts modern cars from the factory allow min 5 degrees of deviation per cam, some up to 10 degress, before a CEL is tripped.

Cheers

Henry Schmidt 01-19-2023 04:38 AM

I once set the cam timing on a 911 race engine at the track by eye. Of course having the proper tools would have been preferable but at the track, sometimes you go with what you have.
The engine performed with no noticeable change in performance. Your results are great, good job.


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