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Jim Dorociak 01-17-2023 04:22 PM

993 heads
 
guys - I have a few 993 heads and noticed (1) has cracked and missing chunks of ceramic liner in the exhaust port. Can this be fixed? How to fix it? It looks like 35% of the liner is missing? Is there a high temp epoxy to fill in and build up to repair? Open to thoughts, suggestions and possible solutions from the group. Thanks! Jim Dorociak
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safe 01-18-2023 11:10 PM

They crack... I've only seen 3-4 3.6 engines apart but all had cracks and missing parts of the liner. My engine is missing some of its liner.
Probably not ideal, 35% seems like a lot, but I wouldn't worry unless you have a turbo. The common method of repair I think is to replace the head with a better one.

mikedsilva 01-25-2023 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Dorociak (Post 11899492)
guys - I have a few 993 heads and noticed (1) has cracked and missing chunks of ceramic liner in the exhaust port. Can this be fixed? How to fix it? It looks like 35% of the liner is missing? Is there a high temp epoxy to fill in and build up to repair? Open to thoughts, suggestions and possible solutions from the group. Thanks! Jim Dorociak
jdorociak@gmail.com

One of Neil Harveys posts somewhere (recently) stated he has some sort of coating that he brushes on in layers.... No idea what he uses of course but it would be worth reaching out to him.

Jim Dorociak 01-25-2023 09:58 AM

Thanks Mike - I sent him a PM and will do a search as well. Jim

winders 01-25-2023 11:16 AM

This is why I went with Xtreme heads for my race engine. Yes, Xtreme heads are expensive, but, for my situation, I will save money in the long run not having to deal with damaged ceramic inserts or cracked heads.

Jim Dorociak 01-25-2023 01:09 PM

Thanks Scott. Not making a race engine, but a solid street engine. Is there any repair that can be done to "fix" the missing pieces of ceramic? I have to assume everyone who had missing ceramic did not throw those heads away. Jim

stownsen914 01-25-2023 01:33 PM

I've heard several shops mention here and elsewhere that they have repair procedures for damaged ceramic inserts. At least one mentioned an epoxy substance.

PeteKz 01-28-2023 10:12 AM

I can't see how any epoxy based material would hold up to the heat in the exhaust port--that's why they are made of ceramic in the first place. Whatever they brushed into the exhaust port must be a ceramic based thermal barrier coating (TBC), that must be heat cured in an oven first, then finish cured by running the engine. See one of your local TBC specialists. FYI, I had TBC applied to the exhaust ports of my engine I built a year ago. So far, so good (6000 miles).

Mike Billings 01-30-2023 02:28 PM

If the ports want to be bigger, then why fight them? (sarcasm, haha, not really a question)

PeteKz 01-30-2023 10:00 PM

"Be the port."

Peter M 07-15-2023 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteKz (Post 11908319)
FYI, I had TBC applied to the exhaust ports of my engine I built a year ago. So far, so good (6000 miles).

Peter, do you have any reliable data indicating a reduction in head temperature?

PeteKz 07-16-2023 02:36 PM

Nope. TBC's will reduce head temps. How much, and whether it makes a difference in the longevity of the heads is an open question.

Gregvdb 07-16-2023 04:21 PM

I use cerakote thermal barrier on 356 exhaust/heads/valves piston top, super durable. Prep is key:
- ultrasonic clean
-heat up head to 300 to bring up any oil left over
-ultrasonic clean again
- blasting with aluminum oxyde
- ultrasonic clean
- dry
- spray cerakote
- cook for 1hr at 300


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