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smarens 04-16-2023 12:21 PM

camshaft end play issue 3.0 rebuild
 
so full rebuild on my 1980 3.0, everything going great till I hit my first issue now; left cam has 0.007"/0.178mm of end play/thrust, right one has very minimal end play from what I can tell

how do I get to my alignment of 0.25mm spec with 0.178mm of play?

have Snap-On digital torque wrench, using Elgen cams with Web Cam washer/bolt and torqued to 120nM

have Stromski tool and am very competent with measuring with mic's and calipers

this engine had issue before on the left side, in picture you can see the groove worn by the chain

anyone have any suggestions?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1681675507.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1681675507.jpg

Dpmulvan 04-17-2023 07:20 AM

Use a shim 901.105.561.00

smarens 04-17-2023 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dpmulvan (Post 11975481)
Use a shim 901.105.561.00

on outside of the thrust washer with the others? That will give me alignment but is 0.007" of movement alright or is there some other issue?

Dpmulvan 04-17-2023 10:45 AM

I believe .007 is within spec, hopefully one of our engine gurus will chime in to confirm. I looked in the workshop manuals for you but couldn’t find it. Was the motor apart before your rebuild? Sort of assume it was I can’t see Porsche building a motor with chain alignment off enough to gouge case.

Dpmulvan 04-17-2023 10:48 AM

I think specs are up too .18

reclino 04-17-2023 11:18 AM

I have shim kits available to adjust within 0.1mm.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1681758972.jpg

Porsche offers a 0.5 mm shim, my kit has 4 each 0.2 mm and 0.3 mm. And a handy chart for the math....

David
Performance EngiNerding

gled49 04-17-2023 11:33 AM

The wear in the chain case is from a previous tensioner failure. If all the pins are tight, align the sprockets and assemble. Sprockets alignment is done with cams pushed in against the thrust plates. The cam end play is at its limit in that direction.

smarens 04-28-2023 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gled49 (Post 11975745)
The wear in the chain case is from a previous tensioner failure. If all the pins are tight, align the sprockets and assemble. Sprockets alignment is done with cams pushed in against the thrust plates. The cam end play is at its limit in that direction.

thank you

boyt911sc 04-28-2023 10:02 AM

Camshaft Sprockets Alignment………..
 
The camshaft sprocket alignment is done with the timing chain and mechanical or hydraulic tensioners installed.

Tony

Richey 05-06-2023 07:14 PM

The camshaft end plate is probably worn where the thrust washer contacts and you may need a new one .

UROParts 03-04-2025 09:09 AM

Hi guys, URO Parts recently developed replacement Cam Thrust Plate 930 105 196 00, and invites two or three experienced engine builders in the US to test-fit a couple in return for providing feedback for our engineers. Since the plates aren't very expensive, we could include some extra items to help compensate you for your time.

Just drop us a PM if interested!

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