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blue72s 05-09-2023 12:28 PM

Can anyone identify these factory race camshafts?
 
Factory 4-bearing center-lube camshafts

Casting numbers
911-105-155-00
911-105-156-00

I still don't know what is the diameter of the bearing journals but does anyone recognize those numbers above? What spec/model are they for?


Thanks in advance.

Classic 911 05-09-2023 12:28 PM

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gled49 05-09-2023 04:59 PM

All 4 bearing center oil race cams were small journal. Don’t know if the casting numbers are part numbers. By part number, not RSR or 935 by my info. What size are the cam nuts and the thread pitch. Could be home made?

blue72s 05-09-2023 05:22 PM

These look factory to me. I don't know the cam nut size or thread pitch as of yet.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1683681734.jpg

Flat6pac 05-10-2023 03:40 AM

Fine thread 42 mm nut size, on the couple I built.
Bruce

blue72s 05-10-2023 06:22 AM

So, nobody knows what model the cams are for?

906?
ST?
2.8 RSR?
3.0 RSR?
SCRS?
Carb or MFI?
Sprint or Endurance?

One of the clues is the first three digits of the casting number:
"901" tends to be early (usually pre-69) whereas "911" is probably after that. But don't take my word for it.

gled49 05-10-2023 06:55 AM

3.0 RSR in 74 was first 4 bearing race cams. I ruled out all 3 bearing cams, 906, R, ST, 2.8. Those look like fine thread, recessed end factory cams. That’s all I got.

dannobee 05-10-2023 07:47 AM

All you have are the casting numbers. Any other info is normally stamped on the end of the cams, but even then, it's no guarantee of anything because they could have been reground.

If you really want to know what you have, get out a dial indicator, a couple of rocker arms, and a degree wheel and measure them. The short cut would be to use a cam carrier and a rocker arm and measure valve lift, then compare to a chart of the race cams. But even then, you still wouldn't know the duration without using a degree wheel.

Or, if you happen to know an automotive machinist with a "cam doctor," he can put them in some V-blocks and tell you what you have.

safe 05-12-2023 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannobee (Post 11995709)
All you have are the casting numbers. Any other info is normally stamped on the end of the cams, but even then, it's no guarantee of anything because they could have been reground.

If you really want to know what you have, get out a dial indicator, a couple of rocker arms, and a degree wheel and measure them. The short cut would be to use a cam carrier and a rocker arm and measure valve lift, then compare to a chart of the race cams. But even then, you still wouldn't know the duration without using a degree wheel.

Or, if you happen to know an automotive machinist with a "cam doctor," he can put them in some V-blocks and tell you what you have.

+1
The cast number are just a number for the blanks before grinding.

Travis Neff 05-12-2023 08:31 AM

Part number for a blank, uncut cam? I found this.

https://www.early911sregistry.org/forums/showthread.php?80721-FS-Porsche-Camshafts

blue72s 05-12-2023 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Neff (Post 11997673)

Thanks for the link. I did not see that before.

Thanks everyone.

icarp 05-12-2023 06:47 PM

If they are real "FACTORY RACE CAMS " the numbers will be missleading on purpose ,
All info is set to mix up the user , factory privilage eyes only. It's in code

VS JUST CUSTOMER RACE CAMS


Ian

MoreGAS 05-17-2023 05:30 PM

Measure the journal diameter to narrow it down, that is about as easy as wanting info gets.
Then if you still strike out, send them to Web and ask them to evaluate them on the Cam Dr (see exact open and closing times for both sides, total lift etc) and learn what they are exactly, in case they have been modified. This will tell you what lobe centers they are on also, in case folks desired a changed.


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