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H.G.P. 10-31-2004 11:02 AM

How much can I do without sophisticated Porsche tools?
 
I have the motor out, and have some specialty tools (torque wrench, tools I used for installing flywheeel last year, etc.,).

However, I've never removed heads, valves, pistons, etc. Can I get through with regular sockets, etc.,?

What can I do with the Porsche motor out with just "basic" automotive tools? Seals?. valves? cylinders?, oil tubes, etc.

How far can I go here?

Thank you.

walt 10-31-2004 12:44 PM

As far a getting things apart you will need a engine stand, engine stand adapter ring , camshaft tool, stud remover, flywheel and heat exchanger tools. Those would be the minimum basics. Check out this link. http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/wizards/Parts_Wizard.cgi?command=step2&wizard_root=911_eng ine_rebuild

YTNUKLR 10-31-2004 01:21 PM

Really, you can put the engine on a very sturdy table or even leave it on the floor...you can get much done with sockets, 10mm-19mm, a breaker bar, wrenches from 13-18mm, and an allen head 10mm key for the head studs. You should also have needle nose pliers, soft rubber malet, not too complicated.

CliffBrown 10-31-2004 03:56 PM

A 46mm socket will work to get the cam nut off. If you already have the tool for the flywheel bolts, then you're OK.

oneblueyedog 10-31-2004 04:35 PM

I can't see how you can get the cam nuts off without the "rite of passage" crows foot wrench and cam holding tool. The engine is just too special to not get special tools.
Get ready to get a dial gauge and holder to time the cams too.

H.G.P. 10-31-2004 04:45 PM

OK thanks, initial diagnosis is broken upper #2 rocker arm, that may be NLA. And worse, down the spark plug hole (same cylinder #2) I can see dented/mangled metal).

So I may just see how far I can strip everything down with the tools I have to get under #2 cylinder.

Thank for the tool info.

mtelliott 10-31-2004 06:49 PM

I would think you would only need the cam tool as long as you can get the exhaust off. I would think you would want to get an engine stand and special yoke. It will save you loads of time.

ChrisBennet 11-01-2004 05:42 AM

I hate to sound like a broken record but perhaps if you added your location to your profile you would find that one of your Pelican neighbors would be willing to lend you the tools....

You don't need much in the way of special tools to disassemble that motor except for the cam nut tools. Reassembly will require a "Z block and dial indicator for setting the cam timing. The most important "tool" you'll need is knowledge. Get Wayne's book and do your research. To do things right you'll also need some measuring instruments (calipers, micrometers, straight edge, etc) or a machinist to measure things for you.

I find my digital camera to be invaluable for documenting things so when I reasseble them weeks (or months) later I know how things were assembled, where brackets were mounted, etc.
-Chris

rick conrath 11-05-2004 11:45 AM

I agonized over buying the special 993 camshaft tools to remove the nuts...in the end an impact wrench did the trick (and I can use it for other things as well). Wish that I had bought it before I struggled with the main pully nut.

Rick
'78 930

Wayne 962 11-06-2004 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CliffBrown
A 46mm socket will work to get the cam nut off. If you already have the tool for the flywheel bolts, then you're OK.
Yes, you can get the nut off with a socket. But you will stretch and damage your chain. Fine, if you're not re-using it again, but you can't install the new nut without the proper tools, without damaging the chain.

-Wayne

Wayne 962 11-06-2004 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rick conrath
I agonized over buying the special 993 camshaft tools to remove the nuts...in the end an impact wrench did the trick (and I can use it for other things as well). Wish that I had bought it before I struggled with the main pully nut.

Rick
'78 930

How did you reinstall them?

-Wayne


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