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cstreit 05-22-2006 10:52 AM

Compression test results - question?
 
Long story short...

New race motor. (3.0L case, 100mm pistons) 10.5:1 compression. About 1.5 hours on the engine.. I selected the wrong gear and hit 8500RPM. Valve springs are good to 8500.

Two thoughts:

1. ARP rod bolts SHOULD be good to 8500. Anyone ever experienced otherwise?

2. EBS Springs are good for 8500 also. COmpression test came up as follows...

1 - 183
2 - 185
3 - 187
4 - 185
5 - 185
6 - 165

So six is a bit low... Hmmm, leakdown test in order I guess.... But any thoughts?

JeremyD 05-22-2006 11:37 AM

Ouch - I'd drive 20 miles and do another leakdown. If they are consistent with the first one - maybe kissed enough to lightly effect the valve seal...??

cstreit 05-22-2006 12:23 PM

Well I have a leak-down tester coming tomorrow, but here's the thing...

1. I ran 25 laps full bore after the "zing" with no loss of power or issue.

2. I just hooked up 100psi of shop air to the cylinder, there was no air going by those valves...

I'm calling it good.

304065 05-22-2006 12:46 PM

Chris, try the leakdown test with 20 pounds, the % of 20 that a leak represents (airflow through an orifice is proportional to the diameter of the orifice and the pressure of the air) will be more revealing than 100 psi air.

As a final test put a synchrometer on that barrel without adjusting the carb.

2.7RACER 05-22-2006 12:51 PM

Chris,
I agree with you. 100 psi into the combustion chamber with no leak through the valves, means the valves aren't leaking.
Maybe another comp. check when you have a few more miles/laps on the car just for reference.

cstreit 05-22-2006 12:56 PM

Thanks guys

John I will do that tomorrow relative to the other cylinders.

I suspect that 6 is just going to be lower than the others... Not that uncommon really, but if I can't hear 100psi of air escaping, I can't imagine I have an issue.


Doug, Absolutely. I've got 4 sessions and two dyno runs on the motor. It's possible that six is lagging in breakin too.


Anyone have feelings about ARP rod bolts at 8500RPM? I have balanced rods (withing 1/2 gram) and lightweight (465 gram) JE pistons so I I'm in better shape with accell/deccel stress than a stock setup for sure...

Mr Beau 05-22-2006 03:45 PM

Any compression test numbers from before the incident? Seems strange that 6 is so far from the others.

Are you sure you didn't hit 8510 RPM on the 8500 RPM springs? :) The RPM of the spring really depends on the mass of the valve and cam profile. But with that said, it doesn't sound like you have a bent valve.

cstreit 05-22-2006 07:57 PM

No numbers. There was only 10 laps and 3 dyno runs on the engine before this.

The springs are "conservatively good" to 8500 so a slight peak to the 8533 (actual logged) is still okay.


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