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minoclan 11-11-2006 07:31 PM

Need help on a 3.2
 
I have a 87 Carrera with a 3.2. I have SSI's, M&K exhaust and a Steve Wong chip. I do 80% street and 20% De events. I want to start planning for the future and just spent an hour searching this website for the hot 3.2 setup. Do I go to 3.4 or 3.5. Should I just buy a 3.6? I did the searches and came up short. Is there a website that I can build a motor online? I want to start accumulating the parts but I want the configuration set up first.

North Coast Cab 11-12-2006 04:43 AM

Going through this myself. It all depends on a bunch of factors.
#1 - If P's & C's are good the cheapest solution would bee to keep them. This will then change the cam and ignition options drastically.
#2 - If the P's & C's can be changed then you can go to a 3.4 or 3.5, change compression ratio, modify heads for twin-plug, change the ignition, and change to carbs.
#3 - Upgrade to a 3.6
My estimate doing it yourself puts options #1 around $5-6k. Option #2 can run to $15k. Option #3 can run $10k+ and youo still have a used un-rebuilt motor.
The real question is what do you want in terms of performance and what are you willing to spend? Good luck.
John

minoclan 11-12-2006 04:49 AM

I have 102,000 miles on the car so I think that if I do anything, I am going right down to splitting the case and replacing the rods and bolts. If I wanted to build a 3.4 or 3.5, how do I decide all of the other factors like stroke, cam, etc? I would like to stay with pump gas and stay with the current injection system.

Flyer88 11-12-2006 08:58 AM

I'm thinking about this too - I know where I can get some Euro 3.2 pistons (10.3:1) and had thought about doing new cams too. Looking fro input on what kind of gais to expect and how drivability would be impacted, if at all.

Eagledriver 11-12-2006 10:55 AM

I wouldn't use Euro pistons in the land of 91 Octane.

Carrera3.5L 11-12-2006 11:46 AM

Re: Need help on a 3.2
 
Quote:

Originally posted by minoclan
Is there a website that I can build a motor online? I want to start accumulating the parts but I want the configuration set up first.
This may help you in sourcing parts needed for a 3.4/3.5 conversion...:)

http://www.europeancarweb.com/projectcars/proj911parts.pdf

3.2L before (w/ SW chip, Dansk pre-muffler & final muffler installed)
3.5L after (on same dyno)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1163364043.gif

Runs on 91 octane, passes CA smog, and looks fairly close to original in appearance

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1163364264.jpg

Searching the archives will yield LOTS of information on these types of motors, from the pros/cons to building one from the case up...


Ralph

Flyer88 11-12-2006 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eagledriver
I wouldn't use Euro pistons in the land of 91 Octane.
I have the SW chip setup for 93 octane but I usually use the 94 at Sunoco. Car has a cat bypass, MK muffler and an Authority MAF kit. It puts out around 210hp at the wheels now.

minoclan 11-24-2006 07:50 PM

How much rear wheel horsepower can I reasonably expect from a 3.2 converted to a 3.4 and still have it "streetable"?

JeremyD 11-28-2006 08:52 AM

around 244/250 depends alot on if you have to smog. not sure the 993 ss cams are smogable.

If that's your goal, then I would follow Ralph's lead. 3.5 - 20/21 cams, machine the case, make it look purdy - extrude hone, ARP rod bolts, 993 steel or supertech head studs, cam line restrictors, change the carrera fuel line, rsr rocker seals, new cht and reference sensors.


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