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MarkMW 04-07-2008 12:46 AM

Compressing Mechanical Tensioners
 
I am currently trying to replace an early type tensioner in a 3.0 SC engine , and am having problems with compressing the unit.
I have done several hydraulic tensioners in the past , with no dramas - but I think I am doing something wrong here!

I bought the bent metal clip from our host here , as I understand this is the best method to keep it in the closed position , and duly compressed the tensioner in a vice - there was a lot of resistance , but it did close up sufficiently to get the clip on.

Returning to the bench a couple of hours later , I found the tensioner sitting in a pool of oil , and on removing the clip , was able to compress the piston with finger pressure only - obviously I have wrecked it :mad:

Can anyone tell me what I might be doing wrong before I destroy another one?

Many thanks
Mark

1982911SCTarga 04-08-2008 06:51 AM

Bump for some qualified thoughts about this.

Brian

safe 04-08-2008 11:08 AM

compress it very slowly, if you didn't.

cgarr 04-08-2008 11:29 AM

I could be all wrong here but, if you keep a steady pressure on them they should compress, the oil is only a buffer to keep them from quickly collapsing, I believe the screw in the side will release the pressure? I have pumped them back up with a supply of oil on top and I guess thats how they stay full when in use, there is a check ball inside which will let oil in but not out when pumped up.

MarkMW 04-08-2008 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by safe (Post 3874940)
compress it very slowly, if you didn't.

Thanks !!! - I didn't ! - now I have , and it works perfectly. :)

Where would we all be without this board - Thanks again

1982911SCTarga 04-08-2008 12:06 PM

I'm not sure the route to recovery/repressurizing is through the check ball. If you depress the check ball, oil escapes. On the other hand, I don't think it will naturally allow oil back in.

You can depress the check ball by removing the uppermost retainer and seal. From there, you can slip a paper clip down the plunger to depress the check ball. That's as far as I've gotten in messing around with one out of a pair of spare tensioners I have (I carry them in my spares kit when I travel). It was leaking oil, so I disassembled the top part and found a shot O-ring. I plan on rebuilding both, but I haven't gotten around to ordering the rebuild kits for them.

Compare a properly filled 930-type tensioner to one that has lost a portion of its oil -- it highlights the incompressibility of a fluid to the compressibility of a gas. There shouldn't be any air inside a properly functioning tensioner.

The workshop manual and Haynes have procedures about re-filling and bleeding while mounting the tensioner at a 20-degree angle in a vice (working from memory here).

Brian

1982911SCTarga 04-08-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Thanks !!! - I didn't ! - now I have , and it works perfectly.
How did you replace the lost oil?

Brian

thesey914 04-09-2008 07:08 AM

Compress it in a vice - see my sig for a "how to"

equality72521 04-09-2008 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesey914 (Post 3876407)
Compress it in a vice - see my sig for a "how to"

You don't have a sig. :confused:

notmytarga 04-09-2008 08:32 AM

http://www.thesey.com/tensioner.html

I found the link in his profile - nice write up with lots of clear pictures.

equality72521 04-09-2008 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notmytarga (Post 3876557)
http://www.thesey.com/tensioner.html

I found the link in his profile - nice write up with lots of clear pictures.

Ok, got it.

thesey914 04-09-2008 02:42 PM

whoops forgot to tick sig box


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