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burgundyben 09-12-2008 10:28 AM

3.0 or 3.2 Cylinders question.
 
I am about to rebuild a 3.0 ltr SC CIS motor, I suspect I'll find knackered Alusil cylinders.

If I got a good set of Nikasil cylinders from a 3.2 and bought new JE pistons, with 964 cams I'd have a nice motor right?

No issues using 3.2 Cylinders on a 3.0?

Thanks

By the way, newbie!

Ben

tom1394racing 09-12-2008 10:53 AM

The only difference between the 3.0 and 3.2 95mm cylinders is that the 3.0 use the circumferential sealing ring/groove to seal against the head.

The 3.2 (no seal) cylinders can be used with a 3.0 motor with no problems.

turbobrat930 09-12-2008 11:33 AM

Why dont you look into JB R acing's iron lined cylinders. It would open up tons of ring choices, and they are quite the piece of work ( Bling-Bling). They can be found here : www.jbracing.com

Or there is always Ln Engineering's "Nickies" cylinders, and they can be found here: www.lnengineering.com

Hope this helps...

burgundyben 09-12-2008 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom1394racing (Post 4177007)
The only difference between the 3.0 and 3.2 95mm cylinders is that the 3.0 use the circumferential sealing ring/groove to seal against the head.

The 3.2 (no seal) cylinders can be used with a 3.0 motor with no problems.


Excellent, thanks.

Ben

OldTee 09-13-2008 04:51 AM

Somehow I thought that the difference between a 3.0 and 3.2 was not the cylinders but the length of the rods and throw of the crank.

Eagledriver 09-13-2008 02:23 PM

You are correct, that's why you can use the 3.2 cylinders on the 3.0 engine.

-Andy

ChrisBennet 09-17-2008 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundyben (Post 4176959)
I am about to rebuild a 3.0 ltr SC CIS motor, I suspect I'll find knackered Alusil cylinders.

If I got a good set of Nikasil cylinders from a 3.2 and bought new JE pistons, with 964 cams I'd have a nice motor right?

No issues using 3.2 Cylinders on a 3.0?

Thanks

By the way, newbie!

Ben

Keep in mind that there are 4 different (diameter) tolerance groups for cylinders so you might want investigate what it takes to have your pistons to match your cylinders. I've never mixed and matched pistons and cylinders just 'cause it is such a pain to get everything matched up.
-Chris

hcoles 09-17-2008 06:14 PM

we have a good used set of 3.2 Alusil p's and c's over here if you are interested...
pm me back - I'll contact the owner to see if he still has them. I don't know how much he might want.

TomCounihan 10-31-2008 02:04 PM

On a similar topic, say if one wanted to keep the 3.2 pistons. Any issues with this?
I understand the gudgeon pins are a different diameter between 3.0 Vs 3.2
To get around this, would the solution be simply to knock out the small end 3.0 rod bushings, replace and get a machine shop to adjust specifically for the replacement 3.2 gudgeon pins? Does that sound daft? Any obvious issues with that?

Flieger 10-31-2008 06:38 PM

IIRC, 3,2 liter rods are narrower than the 3,0 liter because Porsche made the crank throw shoulders wider to retain stiffness when the stroke went from 70,4 mm to 74,4 mm. The wider shoulders meant less bearing area to squeeze the rod onto.

JohnJL 10-31-2008 10:25 PM

This is exactly what I did. Then slapped a supercharger on top.


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