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Tippy 01-07-2009 04:11 PM

Average cost of rebuilding heads?
 
I am going to have to replace the guides, 6 exhaust valves, and possibly the springs (overrev).

How many hours does it take a shop roughly and how much?

Steve@Rennsport 01-07-2009 04:30 PM

Cory,

Prices vary quite a bit but IMHO, the question you should basking is "who can do a competent and proper job of it?".

In these situations, quality is much more important than price. :) :)

Some shops are all set up to resurface, machine the seats, R&R the guides/hone to fit everything on 911 heads; others are better equipped for other types of engines.

Call me if I can help. :)

Tippy 01-07-2009 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@Rennsport (Post 4403903)
Cory,

Prices vary quite a bit but IMHO, the question you should basking is "who can do a competent and proper job of it?".

In these situations, quality is much more important than price. :) :)

Some shops are all set up to resurface, machine the seats, R&R the guides/hone to fit everything on 911 heads; others are better equipped for other types of engines.

Call me if I can help. :)

Thanks Steve,

The shop I went to today I feel is very competent. The owner wanted to take about 6-8 hours to put in guides, hone, dress seats, and check springs heights/pressures.

Add in the cost of parts and I calculating around $1500 in my head. That is a little more than I anticipated.

I was trying to get a consensus of what these cost should be. :)

dfink 01-07-2009 06:01 PM

For that money they should be twin plugged. The last couple of sets I had done were around $600.00

euro911sc 01-07-2009 06:31 PM

$1200 for mine. Full machine on the seats to stock and mating surface clean 0.010". Everything assembled, cleaned, and ready to put on the engine. I picked them up, so shipping was not included. The company was Extreme Cylinder Heads here in FL. Great rep and Bill is on here, infrequently, but on here. He has some amazing heads he engineered and manf. for bigger engines :) RACE PORN!

-Michael

Tippy 01-07-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dfink (Post 4404076)
For that money they should be twin plugged. The last couple of sets I had done were around $600.00

That sounds more like it, thanks. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by euro911sc (Post 4404124)
$1200 for mine. Full machine on the seats to stock and mating surface clean 0.010". Everything assembled, cleaned, and ready to put on the engine. I picked them up, so shipping was not included. The company was Extreme Cylinder Heads here in FL. Great rep and Bill is on here, infrequently, but on here. He has some amazing heads he engineered and manf. for bigger engines :) RACE PORN!

-Michael

Will look into, thanks. I like RACE PORN... :)

andrew15 01-07-2009 08:40 PM

It depends what your definition of 'rebuilt' is.

Just new valves, guides, springs, and valve guide seals cost over $650

Add in labour to:
- clean, strip, and inspect heads
- surface the mating surfaces
- replace guides
- cut seats
- shim springs to correct height
- vacuum test valve seating
- maybe install a few timecerts on the exhaust stud tappings

I think a complete overhaul is going to be closer to $1,200 than $600.

Regards,
Andrew M

304065 01-08-2009 05:50 AM

Call Bob at Anchor Atlantic Enterprises

1982911SCTarga 01-08-2009 06:11 AM

+1

Bob is a good guy to work with.

Brian

Tippy 01-08-2009 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew15 (Post 4404313)
It depends what your definition of 'rebuilt' is.

Just new valves, guides, springs, and valve guide seals cost over $650

Add in labour to:
- clean, strip, and inspect heads
- surface the mating surfaces
- replace guides
- cut seats
- shim springs to correct height
- vacuum test valve seating
- maybe install a few timecerts on the exhaust stud tappings

I think a complete overhaul is going to be closer to $1,200 than $600.

Regards,
Andrew M

I gotcha, just used to American heads getting rebuilt for about $2-300.....;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by john_cramer (Post 4404704)
Call Bob at Anchor Atlantic Enterprises

Will take note of, thanks! :)

dtw 01-08-2009 11:21 AM

EBS did a set of 2.7 heads for my last year. Off the top of my head:
-12 new valves
-12 new springs
-12 new guides
-install guides
-valve grind
-fly-cut heads
-etc etc.

I think it was around $1,100.

Tippy 01-08-2009 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtw (Post 4405278)
EBS did a set of 2.7 heads for my last year. Off the top of my head:
-12 new valves
-12 new springs
-12 new guides
-install guides
-valve grind
-fly-cut heads
-etc etc.

I think it was around $1,100.

Thats a lot of work and more closer to what I would expect, thanks! :)

timc 01-11-2009 07:41 PM

I just priced a set of SC heads here in Chas, SC at a very good machine shop. Price is approx $450 plus guides and seals.

Jeff Alton 01-11-2009 08:31 PM

I pay 600 flat rate (cdn) to have the heads disassemble, inspected, new guides, valve grind, sealing surface machined, bead blasted and reassembled. Extras would be any new valves required and the cost of twin plugging (300) if one desired.

This is the machinest the dealer and all the local independents use. I have head probably 8-10 sets done with excellent results.

It all boils down to hours X dollars plus parts. Assuming your machinest is knowledgable. The only variables should be labor rate......



Cheers

kenikh 01-11-2009 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton (Post 4412142)
I pay 600 flat rate (cdn) to have the heads disassemble, inspected, new guides, valve grind, sealing surface machined, bead blasted and reassembled. Extras would be any new valves required and the cost of twin plugging (300) if one desired.

This is the machinest the dealer and all the local independents use. I have head probably 8-10 sets done with excellent results.

It all boils down to hours X dollars plus parts. Assuming your machinest is knowledgable. The only variables should be labor rate......



Cheers

Jeff, what's is name? I'll be back in Vancouver in a few week.

Jeff Alton 01-11-2009 10:15 PM

Lance Hayward, www.haywardperformance.com tell him i sent you! :)

Lance is an excellent machinest, does great work including case repair.

Give me a shout when you are up here.

cheers

BGCarrera32 01-12-2009 06:25 AM

I would contact "cgarr" a user on this forum. He does head work and twin plugging out of his home shop. His prices are very good and the pictures of his work I have seen look excellent. He did my rockers and is a good guy to deal with. I know he has done several heads for guys on this forum. He is in Michigan.

Since I am changing out and upgrading everything I opted for EBS in Nevada. I doubt there are too many shops that do as much of this as they do.

kenikh 01-12-2009 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton (Post 4412266)
Lance Hayward, www.haywardperformance.com tell him i sent you! :)

Lance is an excellent machinest, does great work including case repair.

Give me a shout when you are up here.

cheers

Ah yes, my brain is finally out of neutral - Bob Magyar told me about Lance as well and had only great things to say.

AFM744 01-12-2009 08:48 AM

From German Precision in Sunnyvale:http://www.germanprecisioninc.com
Remove, replace, bore new Exhaust guides
Cut all 12 seats
Grind 12 valves
Grind 12 rockers
Twin-Plug
New valve seals
Intake port bore to 38mm
inspected rocker shafts, rod small and big ends, a few other things
~$1,400

Ted was a great guy to work with.

blee 01-12-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenikh (Post 4412149)
Jeff, what's is name? I'll be back in Vancouver in a few week.

Kenik - Any possibility you can take my heads too?

kenikh 01-12-2009 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blee (Post 4412796)
Kenik - Any possibility you can take my heads too?

I am planning on going in Feb, so if I do - yes. :)

Tippy 01-13-2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timc (Post 4412074)
I just priced a set of SC heads here in Chas, SC at a very good machine shop. Price is approx $450 plus guides and seals.

Not bad, thanks. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Alton (Post 4412142)
I pay 600 flat rate (cdn) to have the heads disassemble, inspected, new guides, valve grind, sealing surface machined, bead blasted and reassembled. Extras would be any new valves required and the cost of twin plugging (300) if one desired.

I dont know the exchange rate. It sounds like a lot? :confused: :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGCarrera32 (Post 4412534)
I would contact "cgarr" a user on this forum. He does head work and twin plugging out of his home shop. His prices are very good and the pictures of his work I have seen look excellent. He did my rockers and is a good guy to deal with. I know he has done several heads for guys on this forum. He is in Michigan.

Thanks! Will look into. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFM744 (Post 4412765)
From German Precision in Sunnyvale:http://www.germanprecisioninc.com
Remove, replace, bore new Exhaust guides
Cut all 12 seats
Grind 12 valves
Grind 12 rockers
Twin-Plug
New valve seals
Intake port bore to 38mm
inspected rocker shafts, rod small and big ends, a few other things
~$1,400

Ted was a great guy to work with.

Not too bad of a price, thanks. :)

gabenheimer 01-21-2009 09:22 PM

I had my heads rebuilt by Carl's Place here in Las Vegas. They are a great shop and the owner is a fantastic guy (Tony Mazzagatti). To have the heads completely rebuilt with new seals, valve seats, guides and fully assembled with cams was $850. Original valves and springs were used. They looked brand new and I was very happy with the work.
randy

JGalt 01-22-2009 07:49 AM

Another thing to consider
 
Stock Porsche heads usually have three angle valve job on the seats. Stock V-8 engines typically don't. Three angles takes a bit more time to do properly, especially if other components are changed, like valves.

jcc911 01-28-2009 09:35 AM

I also used cgarr for rebuilding and twin plugging my heads, I thought he did an excellent job and his prices were reasonable.
Highly Reccomend, Good Luck!

88911coupe 01-29-2009 07:27 AM

I used Competition Engineering (rec'd by Wayne), got great results, as has pretty much every other person on the board who's used them. I needed about 1/2 the valves replaced but the total bill was around $1800, maybe just a bit higher IIRC. This was including all new valve guides, pretty much totally rebuilt the heads. They came back looking like artwork. The turnaround time was not bad at all.


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