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California Smog -vs- JE Pistons

Looking to see if anyone using JE pistons in their 3.0 has had any problems passing smog. Before I pull trigger and get new P&C's I want to make sure the smog gods will smile once more upon me! Building a 80 3.0 possible going to a
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FWIW, just upgraded a friend's 3.2 to 3.4 with JEs and Nickies - no problem at all with smog....

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Did he upgrade the cams? That's the next thing to look into...
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Yes, 964 cams from Camgrinder....
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I don't see the CARB guys tearing down your motor to check what brand of pistons you run...
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Correct, but if the dome design isn't as efficient as the stock design, then they will "see" it on the sniffer
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Correct, but if the dome design isn't as efficient as the stock design, then they will "see" it on the sniffer
I'd be curious to see if that is possible.
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I thought JE optioned a CIS dome too. Can anyone confirm that? EBS maybe?

I was curious if they offered the CIS dome on their new piston style casting.
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Not living in California, I need to ask:

Are there any emission exemptions for cars older than 25 years or for that matter older than a specific year?
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1974 and earlier are exempt. They eliminated the rolling exemption years ago.... :-(
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It's actually 75 and earlier.
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I believe there is a classic car exemption still available. Somewhat restrictive on when you can drive the car.
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Cam specs would be more of a factor in passing smog than piston design I should think. Smog specs for that 30 yr old engine are going to be fairly lenient and a fresh engine should be much cleaner than a friend's stock 3.0 with 200k that just past smog.
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I took my parts to Aaron at Rennwerks with the 3.2SS in mind, and just send the cams to Camgrinder to be ground to the 964 profile

Once I build up my cash reserves again, then I'll get the Supertech head studs and find some used 3.2 cylinders to send out for the 98mm bore and re-plate for the JE pistons.

If it doesn't pass smog, I always have family in Oregon!
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No leniency in Calif for smog.

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Cam specs would be more of a factor in passing smog than piston design I should think. Smog specs for that 30 yr old engine are going to be fairly lenient and a fresh engine should be much cleaner than a friend's stock 3.0 with 200k that just past smog.

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