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Motec programming?

I've picked up an RSR replica track car.

I've have to rebuild the engine. Its a race tuned 3.8L with a ton
of bells and whistles being controlled by a Motec48.
I've never used a Motec (or any other controller).

I'm picking up a 964 3.6L steet engine to use as an interim engine
while I take some time to build the RSR engine.

My driving experience is such that I am Blue Solo in a 924S race prepared car.
So the RSR will be quite an experience and upgrade

I'm perfectly fine just running at the output levels of the 3.6L as this will
be a good time for me to learn how to drive the RSR and get comfortable
at these elevated capabilities.


I'm trying to think what will be the most reasonable way time and money
wise to get to my first track lap with the street engine especially since I do
not have the OEM DME.

Is there a place to find initial maps for the 964 3.6L street engine?

With the RSR there's a complete TWM intake system fuel pump and
injectors to match.

Should I start stock == or start with the TWM setup?

I'm not looking to rag out the engine -- just get on the track as economically
as possible (read I don't want to pay big bucks for a whole lot of programming
and setup).

your thoughts, pointers, and tips greatly appreciated.

thanks,

Mike

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The beauty of Motec is its programmability. The other side of that is that it takes dozens of hours to set up and tune properly. Ask Steve Weiner, who has a great deal of experience with this- optimizing for each feature of a one-off race motor takes a very long time with a dyno.

My recommendation would be to source a 964 control unit and harness and use that with your stock 964 motor. Think about it like this, the folks at Bosch and Porsche spent thousands of hours tuning and optimizing that system for reliable performance and you get it all for the cost of a control unit.

I would keep the Motec and the trick RSR bits together as a package, so that when you finish the 3,8 you can use the maps that it came with. . saving you time and money on THAT setup. . .

IMHO of course.
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I've thought about this -- but the whole car has been converted to run off the M48
and the display has been replaced with an AIM system.

I'm not sure how challenging it would be to convert back to a DME system.

So I might be stuck with the M48.

Then again I could be wrong -- I've had it for 2 weeks and I haven't crawled through
everything my self yet.

M

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I've thought about this -- but the whole car has been converted to run off the M48
and the display has been replaced with an AIM system.

I'm not sure how challenging it would be to convert back to a DME system.

So I might be stuck with the M48.

Then again I could be wrong -- I've had it for 2 weeks and I haven't crawled through
everything my self yet.

M

mike
JMHO,......

Its VERY easy to make an expensive mistake with the programming and utterly ruin an engine. This is very common during the learning phase,.........

My best advice would be to contact David Moore @ Moorespeed in the Austin area and have them help you.

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