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PrimeMvr 02-01-2012 03:10 PM

Soda blast P&C?
 
Good evening brain trust!

I am well into my first tear down of a stock 3.0 from an 83 SC. The pistons and cylinders look great except for some carbon in the ring lands and a bit on the top edges of the cylinders.

The heads cleaned up so well with soda blasting that I want to do the same to the P&Cs but I wanted to check with the experts first in case this is not a good idea for the cylinder walls or piston skirts.

Thanks for your valued input!

Steve

tom1394racing 02-01-2012 04:01 PM

I use low pressure (60 PSI) soda blasting to clean all my pistons and the external surfaces of all my cylinders.

Scotchbrite is the best cleaning/de-galzing system for the cylinder bores.

haycait911 02-04-2012 01:19 AM

soda won't hurt anything.

BGCarrera32 02-04-2012 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom1394racing (Post 6531426)
I use low pressure (60 PSI) soda blasting to clean all my pistons and the external surfaces of all my cylinders.

Scotchbrite is the best cleaning/de-galzing system for the cylinder bores.

--->Make that WHITE Scotchbrite.

Steve@Rennsport 02-04-2012 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrimeMvr (Post 6531331)
I am well into my first tear down of a stock 3.0 from an 83 SC. The pistons and cylinders look great except for some carbon in the ring lands and a bit on the top edges of the cylinders.

The heads cleaned up so well with soda blasting that I want to do the same to the P&Cs but I wanted to check with the experts first in case this is not a good idea for the cylinder walls or piston skirts.

Thanks for your valued input!

Steve

You can safely clean & de-carbonize the pistons and cylinders, however I'd be VERY careful to not blast the bores with soda as that will damage the Nikasil.

Walt Fricke 02-10-2012 08:44 PM

Steve - my home brew soda blasting was so gentle that I could (and often did) blast my fingers without embedding any soda in or otherwise harming my flesh.

At that low impact range, is this really going to damage Nikasil? Not that I'd expect to blast the insides of a cylinder, because they don't need it anyway. Is a proper soda blaster of much higher impact velocities?

Steve@Rennsport 02-10-2012 11:30 PM

Walt,

The sharp edges of the commercial media can damage the bores with sufficient pressure. Our soda cleaner does an excellent job of removing carbon, dirt, rust and even powder paint so I know it can etch a Nikasil bore.

I'd experiment with a piece of aluminum and inspect it under close magnification to be sure.

BGCarrera32 02-11-2012 09:09 AM

Does anyone have a recommendation on mesh size for the soda needed when cleaning up cylinder heads? (mesh size would be on the bag)

Thanks

Walt Fricke 02-11-2012 07:39 PM

Mesh size? Commercial soda media? I got mine in bags from Costco. For baking and whatnot.

Perhaps this is not aggressive enough for carbon. Did a great job of cleaning gunk off of an aluminum tranny case, though, getting into the nooks and crannies.

Made a mess of my driveway.

Next time I start making this mess I will dig into my box of junk parts. I've got some pieces of exploded Nikasil cylinder that would be ideal for such a test. Of course, my spouse has trouble understanding why I hang onto some broken parts.

larrym 02-11-2012 08:20 PM

nikasil
 
does that also mean a ball-hone is verboten on nikasil?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@Rennsport (Post 6551193)
Walt,

The sharp edges of the commercial media can damage the bores with sufficient pressure. Our soda cleaner does an excellent job of removing carbon, dirt, rust and even powder paint so I know it can etch a Nikasil bore.

I'd experiment with a piece of aluminum and inspect it under close magnification to be sure.



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