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Best valve guide material?
Doing a quick search of several vendors it looks like phosphorus bronze is the commonly used material for 911 valve guides. I have heard that manganese bronze are also available and better. What's the material of choice among top builders and what is the difference between these two materials?
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We use manganese bronze on normally aspirated street engines and phosphorus bronze on turbo and race engines.
MB is more durable and PB transfers heat better. Beware of claims of magic/ propitiatory materials. Most are just advertizing gimmicks. Bronzonium comes to mind as a perfect example. |
Sounds like MB is the way to go for a mostly stock 3.2 that will see the occasional DE event. Thanks Henry.
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The Heat Transfer Coefficient of Phosphor Bronze is strongly affected by its alloy content.
A 5% Tin PB material would have a typical Heat Transfer Coefficient of about 69 Wm^-1.degK^-1 An alloy with 10% Tin would have a significantly lower value of around 50Wm^-1.degK^-1 Maganese Bronze is quite different and is much more consistent at about 105 Wm^-1.degK^-1 The materials that have been designed for high performance valve guides such as Colsibro and Hidurel are Precipitation Hardening Nickel-Silicon Bronzes and have Heat Transfer Coefficient of about 190 Wm^-1.degK^-1 This is around 4 times that of the high Tin content Phosphor Bronzes. The Colsibro and Hidurel materials have excellent strength and relatively high modulus values but possibly lower lubricity than Phosphor Bronzes. I have priced up Colsibro in the last couple of weeks and it would be about $3.00 per guide before machining. |
Great info Chris and Henry. Thanks..
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valve job
Henry,
Do you send your heads out for a valve job or is it done in house? Thanks, Harry |
Sorry...
just went to your website...in house! h |
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