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Mehoff 07-10-2012 03:13 PM

3.2 Motor Pricing Help
 
So I finally made the jump to a full stock spec race motor and am most likely going to sell my current actual stock 1988 3.2 carrera motor. Can you guys help me out on pricing?

The Bad:
No documentation
No mileage
Currently has a seal leak at the chain housing, otherwise completely dry
No clutch/flywheel or headers

The Good:
Perfect leakdown/compression numbers (assumed, will part it out if not)
Verified 190hp to the wheels on a Mustang Dyno
Perfect Idle
Perfect cold/warm start
No smoke, ever
Supposed new P&C's 2,000 miles ago (will not disclose on a sale as cannot be verified)
Has been used in a streetable race car and has run perfectly, including a 400 mile round trip to Arizona
Will include harness and motronic

Since this is an unknown motor with a leak that will need to be addressed I am not going to expect full market for a healthy motor, but because of the perfect running nature of it I won't let it go anywhere close to core pricing.

Thoughts? Is is sellable or should I just use it as a tinker-toy?

KTL 07-12-2012 08:02 AM

That's a totally sellable engine. Good leakdown, compression and HP numbers are a valuable information to demonstrate the health of the engine.

A leak at the chain case is almost a non-issue. There's only four places it can be leaking

1. O-ring that seals the chain tensioner oil supply port
2. Chain case cover gasket
3. Chain case-to-engine case gasket
4. Camshaft paper seal or o-ring

The first two are an easy fix. #3 requires you to remove the cam sprocket and the chain case itself. #4 you can fix with the chain case staying in place.

I think this would be a very good donor motor for someone doing an engine swap/upgrade or for someone who needs a soild core motor to build up.

Mehoff 07-12-2012 10:42 AM

Thanks Kevin, really appreciate the feedback. Do you think $5k including harness and brain is a reasonable number?

RD911T 07-12-2012 12:17 PM

A quick search of the for sale forum yielded this one 3.2 for sale in the last 6 months. It sold on ebay for $5000. The ebay link is still active. Sounds like you're in the ball park. If I was ready to drop a later motor in my 71, I would buy it!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-used-parts-sale-wanted/651046-turnkey-3-2-carrera-motor-sale-accessories.html#post6495498

Geneman 07-13-2012 03:24 AM

tom i m looking for something that kevin describes a second motor to hot rod at my lesure for track purposes while i bash my existing one . ..i have an 88 also with about 85 k miles.

i did not see a price from you... have you either sold it or decided on a price?

please email me pics and any other info. thanks frank

rauscher@wistar.org

Laneco 07-13-2012 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mehoff (Post 6853281)
Thanks Kevin, really appreciate the feedback. Do you think $5k including harness and brain is a reasonable number?

We've bought two in this price range. We did know the mileage on them, and they were complete. Neither had dyno info nor leakdown/compression test. Both proved to be very good engines and are installed in two of our personal cars.

So to answer your question, yes - the price is reasonable.

angela

bh912e 07-16-2012 09:10 AM

The price is not just reasonable but a downright deal if the engine is in good health. 3 litre engines go for 5k in good shape.

super9064 07-22-2012 05:14 AM

Paid 6K for mine, did come with SSI's.

aigel 07-25-2012 12:43 PM

I would fix the chain housing leak. It will not be expensive to DIY and easy to do once it is out of the car. This way you have a no-stories / turn-key engine. I agree that $5k will get it sold without hassle and with the leak fixed / leakdown numbers documented, you should ask $6k to get started, IMHO.

G

aigel 08-01-2012 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KTL (Post 6852929)
That's a totally sellable engine. Good leakdown, compression and HP numbers are a valuable information to demonstrate the health of the engine.

A leak at the chain case is almost a non-issue. There's only four places it can be leaking

1. O-ring that seals the chain tensioner oil supply port
2. Chain case cover gasket
3. Chain case-to-engine case gasket
4. Camshaft paper seal or o-ring

Don't forget the cam end plate gasket and o-ring. These require removal of the cam sprocket and re-timing the cam(s).

George

KTL 08-01-2012 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aigel (Post 6887209)
Don't forget the cam end plate gasket and o-ring. These require removal of the cam sprocket and re-timing the cam(s).

George

Yep. My description of that is #4 in my list.

Looks like I have to do this same leak repair on my just finished racecar engine- both sides. :mad: Not sure what I did to screw that up........ TWICE :rolleyes:

Rex Karrs 08-05-2012 05:42 PM

I paid $6500 for a bone-stock 3.2, with brain and wiring, last year, so $5000 sounds like a bargain to me!

Azul_Targa 08-17-2012 06:30 PM

Mehoff, would you mind speaking with my mechanic?

ShakinJoe 08-17-2012 09:17 PM

I've got mine listed here on Pelican for $6K and it includes DME, Harness, headers and Steve Wong chip.

Your price s good if not a bit low


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