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Engine stand adapter, necessary?
Is it necessary to use the adapter for a standard engine stand? Will you damage the engine if you use the standard bolt supports cut to fit the 2.2 motor?
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Hi, if you mean the standard "universal" plate with diagonal slots for sliding the spacers/bolts along, then I have seen various folk using them after searching the forums, but after seeing docrodg's comment below, I guess they've been on the ally case engines not the magnesium ones....I willingly defer to his knowledge!
I didn't feel comfortable using it with my build, as it's a turbo lump with a lot more weight than a N/A engine, once dressed with intercooler etc. I bit the bullet and bought a basket type from our hosts (I heard somewhere that Porsche used to use this type for supporting the flat-12 917 engine! :eek: ) The basket type also allows you to mount the flywheel and clutch assy - not sure if the universal mount would give you this, if it's important? Cheers Spencer. |
The ring on the mount our host carries I what supports the weight, not the bolts. This is not true of the standard engine stand insert with four arms that you buy anywhere. While ok for a chevy iron block they would not work on a magnesium case as all that stress on the bolts would be likely to strip the threads right out.
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I'm getting up the courage to drop my SC engine and replace the lower head studs. I don't intend to open the crank case.
Will an Al block motor hold its own weight on a 4 bolt universal stand? |
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As I won't be taking the flywheel etc off, I don't need to access the back of the block where the the 4 bolt stand attaches. So I guess I won't need the adapter/yoke.
I will be treading VERY carefully. Breakages = $$$ Anyone here mounted their engine without the adapter? |
If you can modify a standard universal stand's arms so you can use all four bolts, you won't have any trouble at all, no matter what the case. I didn't know about hogging out some of the holes, so used only three with no problems. I think I used one with just two bolts (after removing the flywheel) on a mag case, but I've had the real deal stand for so long I can't quite remember.
I was able to use the much flimsier yoke made for VWs successfully on a 911 motor. No stripped threads, anyway. Though some of the cases I have used have had Helicoil inserts in the stud holes, perhaps indicating they had, at some prior time, been stripped? |
Thanks for the feedback gents. As mine is an aluminium block the threads should be strong enough even if I can only get 3. Ill be doing what I can to get 4 bolts on just to be safe.
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An engine stand makes access to all parts very convenient. Be that as it may, due to space constraints, I once assembled an engine on a work bench, on top of a HD lazy susan turntable. For certain operations, I propped the crankcase on the flywheel end.
At a certain point in time (long block), move it onto a your eventual lift, in my case a large dolly I constructed with 8" caster wheels, high enough to roll a floor jack underneath to reinstall the engine. I installed the carbs and exhaust system after the engine was bolted into the chassis. Sherwood |
Is this what you had in mind?
Had no issues with using the standard 4 bolt arms on my 3.2 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1377309632.jpg |
Exactly! Thanks for the pic. Shrtshck
btw your garage floor has the same "decoration" as mine :) |
You may have no issues with those bolts for now but that is really not a good idea for that aluminum block and the four small shallow studs. Really, you need to buy borrow a proper engine mount piece.
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