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head damage during shipping, repairable?

Hi guys,
I recently bought some second hand 3.2 heads from an ebay seller who shipped them internationally, unfortunately he stacked the heads with three on top of the protruding studs of three heads in the bottom of the box.

The heads on top sustained damage from the studs impacting the combustion chamber and sealing areas as per the pics. I dont want to skim them down and change deck height, and was wondering if anyone knows if these can be spot weld repaired and skimmed back to original height?



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Paypal or shipping insured? Seems like alot of work for a set of 3.2 heads etc.
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I hate these unsensitive idiots.
I once got a set of original Solex cams in a box without any protection. one was broken apart and that one damadged the other one unrepairable.
6 weeks diarhoea for such idiots.

Do good and weld them, thats possible.

But: Sometimes such damages look worse than they are. maybe a slight surfacing odes the job.
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head damage during shipping, repairable?

It looks pretty deep but .25mm might clean them up that's the factory limit but you can go a bit more. This is a fear when heads are sent to me, always stress to protect the sealing surfaces, I have received some like that, I know that doesn't help.
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Thanks, its definately deeper than .25mm so I think I may have to get my machine shop to evaluate and see if we can spot weld then clean up. This guy was a major parts dealer in Germany, really frigging frustrates me that they can't even pack properly!
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This guy was a major parts dealer in Germany, really frigging frustrates me that they can't even pack properly!
What about shipping them back home and getting your money back?
What does the seller say about it?
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I agree. They REALLY screwed up on the packing. I'd insist they pay the return freight and return the full purchase price, including the shipping. If they refuse to do that, out them. Those heads aren't gonna get returned back to stock specs without spending a ton of money.

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Not acceptable... welding is always an option but what I would consider a last resort. I would insist on seller owning the pain of fix not you.
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The stupidity I have seen regarding packaging when I buy stuff on Pelican always seems to find new lows, every year.

Last set of cams I bought came in a flat rate box, no padding, with a cam end half out of the box. Not just idiotic: IT'S LAZY.
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Just back from my machine shop, they said the same. It will cost a lot of money and they can't gaurantee the integrity of the weld on the actual cylinder sealing surface as they have doubt's about the composition of the aluminimum and the actual spot weld process etc. My mate is a PhD metallurgist so I'll get him to decipher what I was told......

I will try work with the seller as I think they are reasonable people. If not, then I guess I got screwed.

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some pics of the actual box......what where they thinking?



More damage....





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If they are a breaker then they have plenty of rubber fuel line to chunk up and slide over the studs...a board of wood between layers in the box is nearly free too.

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