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vascott01 12-04-2015 03:25 PM

Spark plugs after a complete rebuild
 
Evening all...

After a complete rebuild and new P/C with rings...I was doing my 500 mile break-in service and I was looking at my plugs and noticed that 6, 5, & 4 had a fair amount of carbon build up versus 1, 2, 3 which were fine.

My car ran a bit rich until I could tune the Air fuel which it did take multiple times with varying weather temps and finding out I had a bad fuel relay.

I cleaned them up and I should have taken a photo.

I am using Bosch W4CS and set at .07m


Why one side

Lapkritis 12-04-2015 09:00 PM

Carbs out of balance? Check adjustment to make sure the butterflies open simultaneously.

vascott01 12-05-2015 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lapkritis (Post 8904722)
Carbs out of balance? Check adjustment to make sure the butterflies open simultaneously.


No Carbs...


Anyone??

Tippy 12-05-2015 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vascott01 (Post 8904861)
No Carbs...


Anyone??

You still haven't mentioned what engine, induction system, nor ignition, and you're asking for help? :/

vascott01 12-05-2015 06:51 AM

My apologies

1979 930 - engine 83 ROW/Canada based on the stamp on the case,
type 930/66
CIS fuel injection

Only Mod was 930 sport grind on the cams by Elgin Cams

turbo owner 12-05-2015 09:40 AM

plug wires?

vascott01 12-05-2015 12:17 PM

The car drives well.. I might consider new wires. They were one of the few things I did not replace...

mytoy 12-05-2015 12:34 PM

You sure that your plugs are set at .07mm gap? That seems extremely tight, like almost closed. 7mm might be better.

vascott01 12-05-2015 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mytoy (Post 8905440)
You sure that your plugs are set at .07mm gap? That seems extremely tight, like almost closed. 7mm might be better.

my mistake...bad eyes..it is actual .7milimeters based on my cheap gap tool.

mytoy 12-05-2015 01:09 PM

Well then your eyes must bee really bad as the gap should be 7mm or 27 thousands of an inch.:D

I usually gap the plugs at 30 to 32 thousands for n/a but if your a turbo then 27 thousands or 7 mm would be right.

Tippy 12-05-2015 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vascott01 (Post 8905012)
My apologies

1979 930 - engine 83 ROW/Canada based on the stamp on the case,
type 930/66
CIS fuel injection

Only Mod was 930 sport grind on the cams by Elgin Cams

Try the 930/Supercgarging forum, lots of knowledgeable 930/CIS guys there.

79 is super special!

Steve@Rennsport 12-05-2015 03:00 PM

Plug wires for sure if you never replaced them; they really suffer on a Turbo.

If you didn't send the injectors out for checking and cleaning, thats what you do right now.

porterdog 12-06-2015 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mytoy (Post 8905476)
Well then your eyes must bee really bad as the gap should be 7mm or 27 thousands of an inch.:D

I usually gap the plugs at 30 to 32 thousands for n/a but if your a turbo then 27 thousands or 7 mm would be right.

Back to school with you :)

1mm = ~.40", so 7mm would be ~.28" or over a quarter inch.

crg53 12-06-2015 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mytoy (Post 8905476)
Well then your eyes must bee really bad as the gap should be 7mm or 27 thousands of an inch.:D

I usually gap the plugs at 30 to 32 thousands for n/a but if your a turbo then 27 thousands or 7 mm would be right.

No offence, but your math must be really bad. 7 mm = 0.275591 inch, not 0.027 inch.



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mreid 12-06-2015 06:26 AM

Another possibility is cam timing on that bank. How does the engine run?

mytoy 12-06-2015 11:33 AM

You are correct my math was terrible. Back to school for me and detention already.
.7mm should be the correct gap. Sorry.:(

vascott01 12-07-2015 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mreid (Post 8906196)
Another possibility is cam timing on that bank. How does the engine run?

I used Stromski's cam timing tool and had a buddy asist to ensure the second set of eyes. Unless it is now off by a micro hair. I am not sure...

engine runs great when it is warmed up. I am having an issue with the AAR. 1700 rpms on start up and after about 10 mins it drops down to 1250. Then after driving it for awhile it drops to 1000rpms.

Which I did remove and then added back as it seemed to work better after cleaning it up and checking connections. I do have a buddies that I will put in to see if that is causing the issue for the next 500 miles...

Thanks again all for your recommendations..

Cheers


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