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jpflip 12-09-2015 11:43 AM

Would like to know what you are thinking....
 
First post on this forum. I normally only work on 996TT 2001-2005 but decided to help a friend....He bought a use 1976 coupe and I've found some issues with the car. What do you think of this damaged casing... Second picture just to show you the problems I'm facing (electronic speedo wiring)....:mad: I got the engine out last Saturday and this forum was of great help!!! Thanks everyone!!!




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304065 12-09-2015 02:50 PM

If your plan is to rebuild that mag case motor, when you send it out for the case resizing, oil bypass mod, etc. you can have Ollies weld up the damage. Not too expensive.

On photo #2. . . is that an original Home Depot wire nut? :)

jpflip 12-09-2015 03:27 PM

Thanks for your reply! You think a good welder can build a new surface, lobe, for the bolt! On my 996TT I had the coolant pipes welded and it was difficult due to impurities in the casting... We are not planning to split the case but I will pass this information to the owner. The the Home depot hardware lol!!! I think the previous owner was a home electrician because there are many marrets especially behind the cluster, ouch.... ;-(

tharbert 12-10-2015 06:26 AM

Ollies welded up some potential weak spots on my case so, yes, these cases can be successfully welded. Maybe your repair can be done but I don't see how without splitting the case. Then, you get into a number of other issues associated with splitting Mg cases that will require a good bit of machine work.

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Lapkritis 12-10-2015 07:51 AM

Unless leaking from behind that bolt heavily, I would let a sleeping dog lie. If you're looking for perfection then I would have at it with a budget of around $6-10K.

Almost looks as if someone used a grinder to get to the bolt previously. Appears triangle of death/rear main seal are gushing.

jpflip 12-10-2015 08:35 AM

[QUOTE=tharbert;8912081]Ollies welded up some potential weak spots on my case so, yes, these cases can be successfully welded. Maybe your repair can be done but I don't see how without splitting the case. Then, you get into a number of other issues associated with splitting Mg cases that will require a good bit of machine work.


Wow in fact very nice work!!!

jpflip 12-10-2015 08:35 AM

The owner is not ready to spend lots of money on getting the case open so we decided to get thicker washers fabricated and install them with longer bolt and shoulder nut....Thanks for your advice everyone!!!

Flat6pac 12-10-2015 10:05 AM

Put a couple large washers on it and keep it bolted up,its not going to fall off...
Bruce

304065 12-10-2015 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpflip (Post 8912279)
The owner is not ready to spend lots of money on getting the case open so we decided to get thicker washers fabricated and install them with longer bolt and shoulder nut....Thanks for your advice everyone!!!

Great! And put the wire nuts back on and enter it in the Home Depot concours!

Please convince the owner that if somebody treated the engine like that, he will save a lot of money in the long term fixing it right and fixing it today. An engine rebuild is about a $10,000 proposition done right. . . the price just goes up from there with the passage of time and the manifestation of latent (or not-so latent) defects.

jpflip 12-11-2015 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat6pac (Post 8912424)
Put a couple large washers on it and keep it bolted up,its not going to fall off...
Bruce

Of course, a friend will fabricate thicker washer and will go with this... And agree with you , it should last for a while....Thanks!

jpflip 12-11-2015 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 304065 (Post 8913080)
Great! And put the wire nuts back on and enter it in the Home Depot concours!

Please convince the owner that if somebody treated the engine like that, he will save a lot of money in the long term fixing it right and fixing it today. An engine rebuild is about a $10,000 proposition done right. . . the price just goes up from there with the passage of time and the manifestation of latent (or not-so latent) defects.


The owner never done any mechanical work in his life but I'm trying to train him, at least to do his own oil change....We have to face one problem at the time. It will take many days, months to fix everything properly but as you said the value of the car will increase for every positive step we make!!!


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