Pelican Parts Forums

Pelican Parts Forums (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/)
-   911 Engine Rebuilding Forum (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-engine-rebuilding-forum/)
-   -   Case through bolts o rings (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/911-engine-rebuilding-forum/976735-case-through-bolts-o-rings.html)

mb911 11-06-2017 04:42 AM

Case through bolts o rings
 
So this has been covered many times but wanted a fresh opinion.. I just put the case together and found a few of the blue o-rings squeezed out. I used dow corning 111 on them prior to torque.. So what would be suggested at this point? Will viton really work that much better? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509975715.jpg

faapgar 11-06-2017 04:58 AM

o-rings
 
Change to the red O-rings from Porsche.Fred

smokintr6 11-06-2017 05:00 AM

No personal experience with the blue ones, and my 964 thru bolts are a little different style.... but, I went with the green ones, and installed using a modified sharpie marker cap. No hassle, and no leaks so far.

mb911 11-06-2017 05:55 AM

I suppose I should order some.. Gotta find a part number..

MBruns 11-06-2017 06:03 AM

squeeze out
 
I have seen that alot when the edge of the through bolt hole is not chamfered enough or at all, I use a counter sink tool to break the edge and that gives the "O"ring room to work, I prefer the viton rings with most any lube, anything but sealant. The mag cases seem to shuffle at the washers that usually needs to be spotfaced when the cases are apart, I have seen the later cases that have one half chamfered and the other side not.
Mike Bruns

mb911 11-06-2017 06:12 AM

So would suggest replacement of all of them?

MBruns 11-06-2017 06:49 AM

O rings
 
If its squeezing material out yes, the rings are basicly packing but they seal main galley oil pressure and an awful lot of work beyond where you are now
Mike Bruns

mb911 11-06-2017 06:50 AM

Best source for quality replacements.

MBruns 11-06-2017 07:05 AM

rings
 
Our host should have viton or a local hydraulic shop can match them up
Mike Bruns

mb911 11-06-2017 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBruns (Post 9805059)
Our host should have viton or a local hydraulic shop can match them up
Mike Bruns



Thanks.. Do you happen to know the correct sizing?

gtc 11-15-2017 09:12 AM

I used 8x2mm viton o-rings from McMaster Carr.
https://www.mcmaster.com/#9263K169

Henry Schmidt 11-15-2017 09:53 AM

Green Viton from Wrightwood Racing are the best we've found.

bpu699 11-15-2017 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb911 (Post 9804916)
So this has been covered many times but wanted a fresh opinion.. I just put the case together and found a few of the blue o-rings squeezed out. I used dow corning 111 on them prior to torque.. So what would be suggested at this point? Will viton really work that much better? http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1509975715.jpg

Howdy Neighbor... (Live in Caledonia, see you are in Burlington)...

Looks like lots of folks chamfer the case to accept the rings. Home depot sells a 3/4 chamfer by Ryobi for $8. I put it in a very low speed drill, and applied very little pressure to "barely" chamfer it. Then sanded the edges with 1000grit sand paper to smooth the edges.

Waynes Book recommended this (chamfering)...

I do wonder why porsche only did it on one side. There had to be a great reason. Only think I can think of, is that on one side the o-ring seats against the THREAD, not a flush bolt surface. Perhaps they were worried that chamfering would take away needed compression against the thread? Applying gasket material at the thread end seems to make sense, but I know most folks just use o-ring lubricant.


Bo

gtc 11-15-2017 10:46 AM

The real question is.... Silicone or Krytox?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...eys/paddel.gif

Henry Schmidt 11-15-2017 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpu699 (Post 9815806)
Howdy Neighbor... (Live in Caledonia, see you are in Burlington)...

Looks like lots of folks chamfer the case to accept the rings. Home depot sells a 3/4 chamfer by Ryobi for $8. I put it in a very low speed drill, and applied very little pressure to "barely" chamfer it. Then sanded the edges with 1000grit sand paper to smooth the edges.

Waynes Book recommended this (chamfering)...

I do wonder why porsche only did it on one side. There had to be a great reason. Only think I can think of, is that on one side the o-ring seats against the THREAD, not a flush bolt surface. Perhaps they were worried that chamfering would take away needed compression against the thread? Applying gasket material at the thread end seems to make sense, but I know most folks just use o-ring lubricant.


Bo

I've seen this particular case and the sealing surface is in tact and not in need of chamfering. Some mag case definitely need work.

BartdeBruijn 11-17-2017 05:38 AM

Hi Ben,

Quite some time ago I ran into the same issue/problem....
After all maybe it is not strange at all that they do squeeze out(a bit)

cheers,
Bart

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1510929335.png

mb911 11-17-2017 07:28 AM

I was able to order the correct seals all is good now. Thank you everyone.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:22 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website


DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.